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So, you would rather have Taliban takeover the country w/o the fight? And who has more legitimacy Pakistani army or the Taliban?
You really are good at jumping conclusions, brilliant ones at that, but those only align with your own thoughts. I do not support Taliban, I do not support their imposition of sharia but at same time I do not support bombing of populations because some people who are killing others are hiding in that population.
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If the army does not try to contain the militancy we'd have taleban running the country. I am even open to that.
KPK government is free to hand over their province to them. Its better for them to rule fully as compared to behind the scenes.
I don't see this any different from Taliban making claims of Pakistani government/army being kafir and wajibul-qatl. We don't have to copy-cat them to eliminate them.
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So your solution is to stop punishing taleban? should we apply the same logic to the target killers in Karachi and the rest of the country? Would that make Pakistan peaceful?
As far as the perception thing is concerned, as far as drones is concerned you will see most of us vociferously opposing them but there are some people among the anti drone group which does not respond with the same spirit in case of a suicide attack. These people would be found muddying things (weaving conspiracy theories) every time taleban accepts responsibility for an attack.
I think its other way around.. We do hear 'more drones, more drones mantra', but do we have people openly asking for more suicide attacks?
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You really are good at jumping conclusions, brilliant ones at that, but those only align with your own thoughts. I do not support Taliban, I do not support their imposition of sharia but at same time I do not support bombing of populations because some people who are killing others are hiding in that population.
This simple proposition is hard to digest and no benefit for indulging in such discussions. I'm out for my peace of mind :)
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I don't see this any different from Taliban making claims of Pakistani government/army being kafir and wajibul-qatl. We don't have to copy-cat them to eliminate them.
So leaving them alone would solve the problem?
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I do not support Taliban, I do not support their imposition of sharia but at same time I do not support bombing of populations because some people who are killing others are hiding in that population.
Brilliant thinking. If this type of thinking continues Pakistan will become Taliban country & and the Taliban sharia that you oppose wont be optional, but mandatory.
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So leaving them alone would solve the problem?
Brilliant thinking. If this type of thinking continues Pakistan will become Taliban country & and the Taliban sharia that you oppose wont be optional, but mandatory.
How about nuking FATA? That would solve all the problems, na rahay ga baans na bajay gi bansuri.
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How about nuking FATA? That would solve all the problems, na rahay ga baans na bajay gi bansuri.
did any one ask for that?
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did any one ask for that?
Nobody is currently asking for "that", but more drones, more operations will fuel more terrorism, will demand even more operation.... an endless cycle of bombing, terrorism will continue. If we have to kill them anyways just do it once for all.
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^ Do you want Pakistan over run by warlords like Somalia? This is exactly what Pakistan has converted into. Different warlords reign supreme in different areas.
Hafiz Gul Bahadur NWA, Mullah Nazir (killed in a drone strike) SWA, Hakeemullah Mehsud, Lashkar e Islam in Khyber, Fazlullah (Swat, Dir, Buner etc) and so on and so forth. Add to this mesh LEJ, JEM, HUM, IMU (Uzbeks), Chechens and others. The situation is very complex.
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I was thinking more along the lines of Malala's home town which has been relatively trouble free in recent time, expect the shooting incident of course.
So we have to be nice to the terrorists so they would grace us with honor of not shooting at us.
The Taliban are raising us Pakistanis like obedient pets.
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Refuting malala-propaganda means loving Taliban? That’s intolerance by liberal fascists. And, we know why secularists need malala propaganda, because they think that Pakistani people are terrorist minded and malala can be used as a tool to "liberalize" them. That tells how much liberal and secularists love Pakistani people. That is why we need malala hyperbole. just get it what secularists give us otherwise we are terrorist minded.
Yes but if someone does have an agenda that does not make Malala the bad guy now does it? If Malala is Ali's tool, then Ali's the one you should direct your conspiracy theories at?
And what exactly IS Ali going to achieve from his tool?
Malala is talking about educating the masses, not talking about the separation of religion from governance.
What exactly is Ali doing that makes you think he is using her? He is praising her efforts to speak up for educating the masses, especially the criminally neglected segment of our society - the girls.
Ali is praising Malala.
I would think Ali is Malala's tool.
Ali,
I didn't mean to call you a 'tool', just making a point.
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^ Do you want Pakistan over run by warlords like Somalia? This is exactly what Pakistan has converted into. Different warlords reign supreme in different areas.
Hafiz Gul Bahadur NWA, Mullah Nazir (killed in a drone strike) SWA, Hakeemullah Mehsud, Lashkar e Islam in Khyber, Fazlullah (Swat, Dir, Buner etc) and so on and so forth. Add to this mesh LEJ, JEM, HUM, IMU (Uzbeks), Chechens and others. The situation is very complex.
How do you justify strategic assets (not depth)?
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How do you justify strategic assets (not depth)?
Thats something for the army to justify. :p
Anyways, I have my reservations. Lets hope the future is better than out past and present.
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Thats something for the army to justify. :p
Anyways, I have my reservations. Lets hope the future is better than out past and present.
Exactly, there are some terrorist organization which serve as "strategic assets" for our army, some serve as strategic assets for other armies/countries/mafias and then we see them all under one umbrella i.e. TTP.
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Exactly, there are some terrorist organization which serve as "strategic assets" for our army, some serve as strategic assets for other armies/countries/mafias and then we see them all under one umbrella i.e. TTP.
The only fear I have is that some of these strategic assets could be playing double games as well, if that happens we will lose a lot more after the US withdrawal.
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The only fear I have is that some of these strategic assets could be playing double games as well, if that happens we will lose a lot more after the US withdrawal.
Yes, that is very possible, that is why I have been saying that we need to close the borders with Afghanistan, monitor all cash flows etc.
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Seems like her work is paying off.
Taliban Misfires as Shot Teenager Spurs Pakistan School Rush - Bloomberg
The Pakistani Taliban’s attempts to deter girls from seeking an education, epitomized by the shooting of 16-year-old Malala Yousafzai in the face last year, are backfiring as school enrollments surge in her home region.
While Yousafzai missed out last week on the Nobel Peace Prize, her plight is helping change attitudes in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province, which lies at the center of a Taliban insurgency. The four-month-old provincial government boosted education spending by about 30 percent and began an enrollment drive that has added 200,000 children, including 75,000 girls.
Yousafzai’s story “is certainly helping us to promote education in the tribal belt,” Muhammad Atif Khan, the province’s education minister, said by phone. “Education is a matter of death and life. We can’t solve terrorism issues without educating people.”
Taliban militants targeted Yousafzai in retaliation over her campaign for girls to be given equal rights to schooling in a country where only 40 percent of adult women can read and write. Though the Nobel award went to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, Yousafzai was showered with accolades in a week in which she published her memoir: she won the European Union’s top human rights prize and met President Barack Obama at the Oval Office.
Faces Covered
The shooting occurred a year ago as Yousafzai traveled home on a school bus in Mingora, a trading hub of 1.8 million people where a majority of women still cover their faces and girls aren’t comfortable answering questions from reporters. The bullet struck above her left eye, grazing her brain. She was flown for emergency surgery to the U.K., where she lives today.
The increased media attention since the shooting on Swat, Yousafzai’s district in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, is pressuring government officials to improve educational standards and encouraging locals to send their kids to school.
Three days ago in Mingora, as local channels flashed the news that Yousafzai didn’t win the peace prize, high school student Shehzad Qamar credited her for prompting the government to build more institutions of higher learning.
“She has done what we couldn’t have achieved in 100 years,” Qamar said. “She gave this town an identity.”
Burning Schools
Four years ago, Taliban guerrillas took control of Swat and imposed their strict interpretation of Islamic law, which forbade girls to attend schools. They beheaded local officials and burned schools in a two-year fight that uprooted 2 million people from their homes in the forested, mile-high valley that sits 155 miles (249 kilometers) north of the capital Islamabad.
While a 10-week army offensive starting in May 2009 ended their rule, Taliban strikes in the area are common, deterring tourists from visiting the area’s mountains, rivers and lakes. Soldiers and local militia conduct frequent patrols to protect the valley from attacks.
For many in Mingora and elsewhere in Pakistan, Yousafzai’s global fame represents an attempt by the U.S. to disparage local culture. The government says Taliban attacks have killed more than 1,200 civilians, soldiers and police this year. U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan have killed 116 people, including 11 civilians, according to the Long War Journal.
“We don’t want our daughters to go out and speak against our traditions,” said Wali Khan, 50, a restaurant owner in Mingora. “U.S. drones are killing innocent kids and women in our area. Do they really care about us? All they want is to malign us through this girl who is playing into their hands.”
Security Increased
While enrollment is increasing in other parts of the province, the Khushal Girls High School & College founded by Yousafzai’s father has suffered. New admissions at the school where Yousafzai attended have dropped since her shooting, administrator Iqbal Hussain said. It had added about 50 new students per year.
“The environment is not the same,” Hussain, 38, said in an interview outside of the two-story school, which was guarded by the police and Pakistan’s army.
Other schools in the area are doing better, however. Enrollment is surging in both private and government-funded schools, according to Ahmad Shah, the chairman of Private Schools Management Association, an organization that represents 500 schools in the area. His school has seen a 10 percent rise in admissions this year, the most since the Taliban’s ouster.
“In our schools, girls are saying I want to be like Malala,” Shah said. “They are relating themselves with her in many ways.”
Female Leaders
Malala symbolizes millions of Pakistani women who are deprived of basic education and equal work opportunities. Only 22 percent of women aged 15 and older go out and work in Pakistan, compared with 78 percent of males in the same category, according to the Pakistan Bureau of Statistics.
The country’s prominent female leaders include Shamshad Akhtar, a former central bank governor, and Fahmida Mirza, a former parliament speaker. Former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto was killed in an alleged Taliban attack in 2007.
Yousafzai started blogging under a pseudonym for the BBC when she was 11 years old, chronicling her love of learning and Taliban oppression in Pakistan. The following summer the New York Times filmed a documentary about her life. As she rose in prominence, the Taliban targeted her for maligning insurgents.
“They don’t think of me as a Westerner,” Yousafzai told the BBC yesterday, referring to other Pakistani citizens. “They’re encouraging me to move forward and continue my campaign for education.”
Schoolgirls Inspired
Sadiqa Ameen, a 15-year-old school girl in Swat, said she wanted to read Yousafzai’s book, titled “I am Malala.” The Pakistani Taliban, or Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan, has threatened to kill Yousafzai and target shops selling her book, the Dawn newspaper reported, citing spokesman Shahidullah Shahid.
“This is probably the first ever book written by a Swati girl,” said Ameen, who lives near Yousafzai’s school. “I am sure her story will be something we all know and have gone through during the Taliban rule.”
Musfira Khan Karim, 11, prayed for Yousafzai’s success in the Nobel competition with her 400 schoolmates in Mingora.
“I want her back here among us,” Karim said in her school’s playground. “I want to know more about her. I want to meet her.”
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lol.....so the new "taliban sympathizer" provincial government took some steps to increase enrollment........its due to her English speeches in foreign countries??
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Oh yes. Parent all across Pakistan decided to send their girls to school because Malala met with Queen Elizabeth. Yeah that really influences the average parent in Pakistan.