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Disagreement is also not digested by left wing. Everyone is imposing... tera kutta kutta hai, mera kutta tommy hai.
The left wingers are not blowing up girls schools or suicide bombing anyone so they get to heaven fast.That honor exclusivity goes to the right wingers.
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somewhat same is doing media. they are presenting malala as hero when people of pakistan dont take her as so, not that people hate malala but the facists using her as tool.
Fascism is a political ideology/philosophy & just b/c you throw into a word salad w/o understand its meaning does not mean its actual meaning changes.
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The left wingers are not blowing up girls schools or suicide bombing anyone so they get to heaven fast.That honor exclusivity goes to the right wingers.
leftist also wish for death of enemies irrespective of the fact whether they are directly involved in killing in suicide attacks. They have their own honors of brutality.
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leftist also wish for death of enemies irrespective of the fact whether they are directly involved in killing in suicide attacks. They have their own honors of brutality.
so no difference between wishing for death and actually carrying out edicts (through target killing and suicide attacks)?
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so no difference between wishing for death and actually carrying out edicts (through target killing and suicide attacks)?
For me killing and cebrating deaths are equal.. brutality has different shapes and each should be condemned equally.
He who kills a soul unless it be (in legal punishment) for murder or for causing disorder and corruption on the earth will be as if he had killed all humankind.
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leftist also wish for death of enemies irrespective of the fact whether they are directly involved in killing in suicide attacks. They have their own honors of brutality.
Its okay to kill when you disagree with someone's ideology.
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so no difference between wishing for death and actually carrying out edicts (through target killing and suicide attacks)?
Aren't people who oppose Taliban supporting drone attacks and wish to increase the number of drone attacks as well as want Pakistani army to launch attacks too?
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Aren't people who oppose Taliban supporting drone attacks and wish to increase the number of drone attacks as well as want Pakistani army to launch attacks too?
Unfortunately people forgot true liberalism of our land uttered by sufis like Miyan Muhammad Bux 'Dushman Mare Te Khushi Na Kariye Hoye Sajna Vee Mar Jana'. If death and killing of opposite party is considered as the only solution, then there is no end to havoc.
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Its okay to kill when you disagree with someone's ideology.
Interestingly, Taliban are accused following this ideology only. If we observe with neutral mind, opposite party is all the same.
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If we observe with neutral mind, opposite party is all the same.
That is a false equivalency & this is the type of mentality that gave rise to Taliban types. If you think there is no difference between those who support Taliban & those opposed them than you need help. Societies exists and thrive in some type of structure/order & those who disrupt that order are known as outlaws. So, those who are calling for law and order & punishing outlaws are not = to outlaws. Thus your logic fails.
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Aren't people who oppose Taliban supporting drone attacks and wish to increase the number of drone attacks as well as want Pakistani army to launch attacks too?
So, you would rather have Taliban takeover the country w/o the fight? And who has more legitimacy Pakistani army or the Taliban?
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That is a false equivalency & this is the type of mentality that gave rise to Taliban types. If you think there is no difference between those who support Taliban & those opposed them than you need help. Societies exists and thrive in some type of structure/order & those who disrupt that order are known as outlaws. So, those who are calling for law and order & punishing outlaws are not = to outlaws. Thus your logic fails.
what kind of order drone attacks have created in our society? Talking against drones is not automatically supporting Taleban. Drones do create resentment and to some extent provide supportive recruitment to Taleban. Supporters of drones need to think neutrally. If they want to impose their ideology, keep it for some time.. koi qayamat nahin aa rahi abhi se ke maar ke manwana hai
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Aren't people who oppose Taliban supporting drone attacks and wish to increase the number of drone attacks as well as want Pakistani army to launch attacks too?
If the army does not try to contain the militancy we'd have taleban running the country. I am even open to that.
KPK government is free to hand over their province to them. Its better for them to rule fully as compared to behind the scenes.
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For me killing and cebrating deaths are equal.. brutality has different shapes and each should be condemned equally.
He who kills a soul unless it be (in legal punishment) for murder or for causing disorder and corruption on the earth will be as if he had killed all humankind.
Killing and celebrating death come from the taleban side. You cannot put those calling for punishing those responsible for thousands of deaths in the same category of taleban.
I personally feel that the tactics of taleban fall into evil, you guys are free to differ with my opinion.
“Whoever of you sees an evil must then change it with his hand. If he is not able to do so, then [he must change it ] with his tongue. And if he is not able to do so, then [he must change it] with his heart. And that is the slightest [effect of] faith.” (Recorded in Muslim)
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what kind of order drone attacks have created in our society?
Perhaps better question is why are there drone attacks? There is cause and effect relationships here that you're conveniently ignoring.
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Well, according to you, in your "neutral mind" there is no difference between Taliban & those who opposed them. I do want to remind you that 42k+ dead Pakistanis were not killed by drones.
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Perhaps better question is why are there drone attacks? There is cause and effect relationships here that you're conveniently.
Well, according to you, in your "neutral mind" there is no difference between Taliban & those who opposed them. I do want to remind you that 42k+ dead Pakistanis were not killed by drones.
42 k or 42... unnecessary bloodshed is condemnable. Drones killed more civilians then bloody Talebans.
There is no justification to support foreign agenda and killing or letting someone killing innocent people in hunt of terrorists. Our army is simply ********, who is allowing all this after eating up major chunk of budget.
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Killing and celebrating death come from the taleban side. You cannot put those calling for punishing those responsible for thousands of deaths in the same category of taleban. I personally feel that the tactics of taleban fall into evil, you guys might not agree with it.
“Whoever of you sees an evil must then change it with his hand. If he is not able to do so, then [he must change it ] with his tongue. And if he is not able to do so, then [he must change it] with his heart. And that is the slightest [effect of] faith.” (Recorded in Muslim)
Liberal side is busy in justifying killing of civilians along with few taleban in drones. So many drones and whats the effect on Taleba. remind me story we used to read in childhood... ek rascal maaro ge.. 100 aur aaen ge. Why its been a perception that those who talk against drones doesn't have a feeling for those who killed in suicide attacks?
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Liberal side is busy in justifying killing of civilians along with few taleban in drones. So many drones and whats the effect on Taleba. remind me story we used to read in childhood... ek rascal maaro ge.. 100 aur aaen ge. Why its been a perception that those who talk against drones doesn't have a feeling for those who killed in suicide attacks?
So your solution is to stop punishing taleban? should we apply the same logic to the target killers in Karachi and the rest of the country? Would that make Pakistan peaceful?
As far as the perception thing is concerned, as far as drones is concerned you will see most of us vociferously opposing them but there are some people among the anti drone group which does not respond with the same spirit in case of a suicide attack. These people would be found muddying things (weaving conspiracy theories) every time taleban accepts responsibility for an attack.
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Drones killed more civilians then bloody Talebans.
You're entitled to your opinion, but not your own facts & what you're saying is simply false.