All the non muslims should be banned from gup shupp

I think enough is enough. There are so many non believers posting messages on gup shupp pages full of total

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that it makes my blood boil.

Some of these people even become

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and say that our beloved prophet (pbuh) was a womaniser because of his many marriages and also that he was a child molester because he married his 3rd wife when she was 8 years old.

When I read all this rubbish my blood boils, how dare they say such baseless things about the holy prophet (pbuh).

I have a suggestion to make to the management, please make sure that you only allow access to muslims on here. Only then there will be nobody here to say rubish against Islam.

Islam is the only way forward and one day everybody in this world wil accept Islam.

I don’t think that is such a good idea. Because if we ban them, how are they suppose to learn the truth? Who is going to tell them? The Jewish media? Americans? I don’t think so, Its Muslims duty to tell the truth to disbeliever and spread the true words of Allah.

We should try to explain to them what Islam is really about, what quran teachs Muslims. Its up to them to accept the truth or reject and argue about it. It our duty to convey Islam to disbelievers, its up to Allah to ease up their hearts and fill it with the light of Islam, out of darkness into the light.

I think its better that we have non-muslims here, other wise we would be fighting among ourselves i.e shia sunni non-sense!!! We would be fighting on tiny issues and statments that can hurt the unity of Muslims here on the Internet and in our daily lives. I think, when it comes to non-muslims, we all should unite under the Islamic/Qurani umbrella. That is the only way to beat them.

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[This message has been edited by The Watcher (edited October 14, 2000).]

censorship will only make you ignorant. you learn lot of things by listning to opposing views besides
discusion among people with same views will be terribly boring. this is should be free exchange of ideas and argument.

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Originally posted by tauba tauba:
I have a suggestion to make to the management, please make sure that you only allow access to muslims on here.
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Tauba tauba, everyone's entitled to their own views, and u should be able to respect that. I'm not asking you to respect what they believe in, thats up to you, i am asking you to respect their right, their freedom to think/believe whatever it is they wish to believe. However, at the same time, disrespect towards any other religion, religious figure or fellow member will not be tolerated.

Freedom of conscience is laid down by Allah swt in the Qur'an:'There is no compulsion in religion'.(2:256)

You cannot force anything upon anyone, especially not religion.

Interesting thought tauba tauba..

whenever you encounter something which you cannot handle.. cover it up.. imagine it doesn't exist..

anyways.. they have as much right to post messages as you do.. the topic of this forum is 'Religion' not 'Islam'.. If it was you may request something like that but it still would not make any difference..

Whatever people think... they think.. making them stop posting will change nothing.. The best thing to do is control you temper.. As Prophet Muhammad had advised us to do..

How unbecoming of a Muslim to raise his tongue in temper.. it is a great shame

I definitely agree with the Watcher and all others, Islam is an open religion, we are Muslims because we have true faith in God, and we understand the difference between what is true and waht is false.

If you belive in Islam, have a good knowledge of it, then such comments should NOT make your blood boil, instead you should use this oppurtunity to explain the truth to anyone who posts such messages.

All praise be to Allah!

AOA,

Yahya

Ofcourse, Allah knows best.

i dont agree i think non muslims must not be allowed to come to this forum or else how will they the truth

[This message has been edited by kabir (edited October 17, 2000).]

I totally disagree with you kabir, I think it is not good idea to evacuate non muslims. I am married to a women who was a non-muslim (american), the house she brought up in was a catholic house, and then specially an american you can imagine how much it is said in america against muslims. But she learnt about it and she is alhamdulillah muslim and everything she does she believes in Islam. The reason was because she started going into Islamic conferences and hanging out with muslims. Brother I believe you have to give them chance and let them listen to us. You have to explain them and love them, love wins everything and force never wins anything. God give us full understanding of Islam. Prophet (pbuh) grow up in non-muslims he did not evacuate them from city and nobody is forced to be muslim, banning from chat rooms can be a big mistake. Other example my wife told me when she was used to go in mosque with some of girls and some of her non-muslim friends wanted to go to mosque but they did not had anything to cover their heads and some people over there was not letting them come to mosque because they dont have scarf, she thinks it was a bad idea to take them away from Islam. Duppata or iscaf is not important as it is important to understand islam and follow islam properly, maybe if they would let them come in, they would have understand and become muslim. Sorry it went too long but I hope you will understand and make more non-muslim friends......

Because if we ban them, how are they suppose to learn the truth? Who is going to tell them<<<

For me, this forum does not show islam in a good light. I belive that islam is better represented by people who have more open-minds and respect.If i had to convert to islam i am sure i would not want to turn out to be liek of the people here.

You ask for good, but you do not want to BE good.

You need an open mind to understand something. Even though other person might have an open mind, a closed mind only sees closed mind.

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tauba tauba, one key thing that Islam teaches us is tolerance! and you do not seem to show any! Only people who make fun of the prophet or Islam should be disallowed, but to say that all non-muslims should be banned is quite discriminatory. This is pak.org, not only_muslim_pak.org. Not all pakistanis are muslim and they have every right to be on the GupShup forum!

[This message has been edited by Astronut (edited October 17, 2000).]

What is the meaning of dawa? By us speaking on religion, those who are non-muslims might hear us say something that will make them start thinking about that. It might be a small point for all we know. This is what Islam expect. The initial thought of inquiry , like a trickle that becomes a torrent, just might be the cause of someone to become a Muslim. There is a precedence in Islam, as opposed to what you are claiming, of allowing them to pray in mosque. Would that be allowed today? Anywhere? While we claim the greatness of Islam? The enemy of Islam is not America, nor is it the British, nor is it the French, etc. We only have to be afraid of each other, the Muslims. Want the proof? Go to the local masjid a few weeks/months. You'll find out. The enemy is within.


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