All the innovations?

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**On 12th of rabiul awal, I was surprised to see the news of people cutting a cake on tv. Then they showed the rallies and jaloos. A hundred questions were racing in my mind when a friend called from lahore. I shared with her all i saw and she was good enough to shock me in return. She told me how people had made prototypes of kaaba and dome and little hills. They had camels out there too. On top of everything, they sang and dance in the evening.

Though there is no concept of celebrating birthdays in Islam, if we really needed to do something, we could recite a lot of darood sharif and make the day as an inspiration to set our directions right. Feeding poor was all right too as long it was just feeding poor and not showing off by making fancy dishes and distribute among all those who could very well afford it themselves.

Which direction are we going in? The true spirit of our religion seems to have lost. To us, this practice might look awkward for sometime, but if we don’t curb it, the next generation will adopt it as it is. They will perceive it to be right since that’s whats being fed in to them.
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well said

i think muharram processions and j*ashn eid milad u nabi* clearly shows that we have growing tendency to do those things that shariah does not expect us to do.

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JP and Maverick

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True. Some people might not like me saying this since muharram processions have been comparatively older trends, but i don't appreciate the way they do their majlis etc. They don't listen to a sunni molvi narating the same thing.

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So true... I had the exact same thoughts this rabi ul awwal.. why do we do things without giving it any thought?

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The most significant day in the history of mankind is the 12th of Rabi al-Awwal. The significance of the day is associated with the dignity of the man who was born on this day. The man born on this day was the answer to Abraham’s supplication. And he was the glad tidings that Jesus Christ gave to his people. His birth had been foretold in previous divine Books. The Jews recognized him as well as one recognizes one’s child. They would even pray against their enemies through him. In short, he is a great blessing for the whole of humanity.

The 12th of Rabi al-Awwal is especially important to the Muslims, because on this day the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was born. This day takes them back to the memory of the one who led humanity from darkness to light and who is described by Allah as “a mercy to all the worlds”.

The Muslims in East and West celebrate the Prophet’s birth anniversary on the 12th of Rabi al-Awwal. Such an occasion is meant to remind people of how the Prophet lived his life. Allah Almighty directs us to follow in the footsteps of His Beloved Messenger: “Verily, in the Messenger of Allah, you have a good example for him who looks to Allah and the Last Day, and remembers Allah much.” (al-Qur’an, 33: 21)
Nowadays, celebration of such a religious occasion is extremely important, especially for youth. Forgetful of such sacred events and their significance, they have indulged in other pleasures. When their hearts become abodes for the love of the Prophet, the best of the creation, they will emulate his practice who was an embodiment of love, sympathy and peace. So the commemoration of the Prophet’s birthday should be cherished and maintained.

Such celebrations will instil in them the values, ethics and moral code practised by the Prophet. This occasion serves a great purpose in that it brings the people closer to the teachings of Islam and to the Prophet’s way of life. It causes them to remember that the Prophet was a blessing for the whole universe, so they should also behave with others like him. His lesson of forbearance will motivate them to forgive even the bitter enemies.
On this occasion the Muslim parents should tell the stories of the Prophet to their children – stories that shed light on different aspects of his life: his birth, childhood, youth and adult life. This practice will kindle the flame of love in their hearts. And this message will serve as a beacon of light for the future generations, so that they will live together in peace, fraternity and solidarity. His care for all of humanity sets the best example for humanity.

In recent times, a very commendable practice has begun. Mawlids are being organized in place of secular celebrations: they are organized to mark a child’s birthday, move into a new house, marriages and similar events. Today’s violence-stricken, dark world can only be illuminated through the light of his teachings which show us how much tolerant he was towards others. Mawlid celebrations aim at the promotion of the culture of love and fraternity, peace and harmony, justice and equality, restoration of human rights and denouncement of terrorism. Also, they give the message of human dignity, forgiveness and accommodation. The Muslims congratulate one another on this day and salute and greet the Beloved Messenger of Allah.

I would also like to share personal experience those whose keep beating the the drums of Biddah and Shirk go to their house and see how they are celebrating their kids Birthdays and how they are performing wedding customs?

Why don’t they remember Biddah then? Why double standards?

The Hloy Prophet is the sole reason for the creation of the Universe. If a son is born in our house and we throw parties and give sweets and on the day Allah SWT’s Beloved Messenger is born we remember Biddah.

If you have not read the History then listen to this lecture, those who are saying Biddah and Shirk today their elders (Imams) use to celebrate, what would you say about them? Were they Mushrik? Were they Biddati?

Before commenting, listen to it and then comeback, otherwise I am not interested in wasting my time with someone who is misinformed.
History-of-Mawlid-un-Nabi-(Celebration-&-the-Concept-of-Biddah)
History of Mawlid-un-Nabi (Celebration & the Concept of Biddah)By:Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr M. Tahir-ul-Qadri - DeenIslam.Com

Legality-of-Mawlid-un-Nabi-(in-the-light-of-Quranic-Interpretation)
Legality of Mawlid-un-Nabi (in the light of Quranic Interpretation)By:Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr M. Tahir-ul-Qadri - DeenIslam.Com

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@ Makki

thanx 4 sharing ur views and the lengthy and thought provoking arguments.

wud u like to share some hadiths from sahih muslim and sahih bukhari in which prophet has asked muslim to celebrate muslim the eid milad un nabi. or the sahaba has celebrated this day like we are celebrating it.

few days back my friend told me that he was attending the dar se quran at the eve of eid milad un nabi after isha prayer. somebody outside the mosque was playing Naat in such a loud volume that the listeners of dar se quran were unable to hear the dars. so imam sahib asked few of them to go and request them to reduce the volume at least. for 10 minutes they stopped it and then started again. so imam had to call of the Dars.

another friend told me that sunni tehrik workers were demanding "bhatta" from the shop keepers of boulton market karachi by saying that they had to meet the expense of lightening.

what is that .......... this is not our deen and we are not supposed to do it. i attended the mehfile naat bus this dhoom dharka is not part of our deen and we should not support it.

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There is always a difference between the actual religion and what the religious practice.

The name/label of the religion stays the same but the essence/beliefs/practices change over time.

When Christian missionaries spread Christianity to different nations they assimilated concepts from local pagan religions [mother-goddess worship (Mary-worship), Trinity, Easter, Christmas etc,] and eventually the current version of Christianity is nothing like the religion Christ preached.

Same thing happened with Sikhism, Guru Nanak condemned Hindu idol-worship but today his own Sikhs pray to pictures of the Gurus, do their Aarti, sing Bhajans and burn incense infront of them...

Guru Nanak also condemned Muslims for going on pilgrimage (hajj) and having a Qibla (sacred direction of prayer) but today his Sikhs themselves go on Yatra (pilgrimage). Sikhs themselves make their Granth a Qibla for Matha-Tekna (Sajdah)...

What the scripture says and what those who identify with that scripture do are not always the same.

Sadly we Muslims too like other religions have evolved our religion away from the actual message of the Quran.

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Pak society is starved of fun and excitement. We do not have bars, dance halls, and regular big-name soccer / cricket/ basketball games.

The only thing left is to have fun in the name of Islam. So people are abusing Islam to dance and sing.

The moment we let people have a separation between culture and religion, they would not abuse Islam, because there will be plenty of other "non-religious" things to dance about.

Hope you all get the point.

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@ Maverick

Here is link below why don’t put little bit effort and listen yourself and it’s not from Hadith, it’s from Quran

Legality-of-Mawlid-un-Nabi-(in-the-light-of-Quranic-Interpretation)
Legality of Mawlid-un-Nabi (in the light of Quranic Interpretation)By:Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr M. Tahir-ul-Qadri - DeenIslam.Com

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I categorically said the day is an incentive to many a positive things. I am not here to under estimate the day and its holiness is established, so no question on that. Yea we celebrate birthday and that is wrong. SO we should just keep quiet when the outlines of holiest of the holy days are being blurred with all the non Islamic traditions? No. We should protect the integrity of our religion or we’ll be held accountable on the day of judgment if we pass it on to our next generation all twisted.Man, you need to fix your attitude as well. We Muslims are always willing to listen and impart more information so someone might choose better ways just because we were there. We are not chesty, we strive for discussions rather then marking anyone as ‘misinformed’. No one is saturated enough with the knowledge to do so. You will be projecting a wrong image each time you talk to a non Muslim.**

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This bhatta part is very true. A friend told me how a group of people wouldn't let anyone cross the street without getting something out of the pocket. We are tarnishing the whole legacy of islam.

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*Very well written. *

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Or perhaps we are not taught properly. We are just told to recite Quran and most of the Muslims die without even understanding the whole Holy book. If we are taught the spirit of islam, I am sure no one would ever do that.

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Madam, why when it comes to religious things we start beating the drums but when it comes to brother or sisters weddings everything is OK, everyone gets on the Dance floor especially those who beat the drums of Shirk and Biddah.

Also different school of thoughts have different interpetation, one thing might be OK by one Imam and not by the other.

If some of these events have some traditions which they shouldn't have then try to educate them not the way you are doing it. If someone has the headache then treat the headache don't chop the head off.

Why do we have double standards?

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^ Umm, everybody has double standards irregardless of religion. AND there's nothing wrong with having fun as long as there's no drinking/drugs involved.

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^ and U r Madam?

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^ What about me? :hoonh:

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Be it Majlis of Muharam, Milad, Shab-e-Barat, these are all created/fabricated by those molvis who have nothing better to do but to run their lives based on the money they collect from the rituals of these events...

These things are accepted by the persons, who seldom do anything good in their lives and their deeds are either to show-off or to compensate for their il-doings

the common features in these followers are as follow

1) in case of argument, they try to be as offensive as possible
2) they'll provide with the references from every book but from the Quran and Sahi Hadees
3) they always follow their mulla blindly and thinks that it is the mulla who is going to get them successful on the day
4) if you ask anything about the mulla, they'll be like killing you either with their tone or looks (but if you are in influential position and can cause great worldly damage to them, they'll put all the blame on a particular mulla and act innocent... yes it is the same character mention in Sura-e-Waqaya)
5) last not least, if they cannot answer you, they'll call you wahabi and/or label you with other names...

Milad or any other such practice cannot be proven by the Quran, Sunna, Sunnat-e-Sahaba and from the books of Sahi Hadees.. Period!!!

But these people gives you example that you do celebrate on other occasion ( they never mention the occasion of eid.. for some reason) such as marriage then y not to celebrate the birth of Prophet (SAAW)... the best answer to this is, Prophet (SAAW) has allowed to celebrate the occasion of wedding ( although the way we do it is wrong but still it can be celebrated)

One Question, The day of death of Prophet (SAAW) Is 12 of Rabiulawal, now with the kind of celebrations ( Israaf and other parties) i fail to understand that what they are trying to celebrate, the birth or the death of Prophet (SAAW)... as most of the actions are against the teaching of the Prophet (SAAW)!!!

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The "death" of the Prophet (SAW)???? YOU MISGUIDED FOOL!!!!