alcohol in food

Mr_Partypooper · June 12, 2001, 5:36am

Originally posted by Mr Partypooper:
**Even if your stipulations about “rivers of wine” were taken to be correct, then how do you know that believers would be limited to one cup? Remember, this is Paradise we are talking about. Being given more than one cup was part of the bargain they struck up with God, isn’t it? Your view of God seems to depict Him as a bit stingy. Furthermore, your view about the wine still being intoxicating would have rendered parts of the Qur’an redundant. In fact, it would lead to a contradiction.

For instance, in Al-Insaan 76: 21, the Qur’an says:

Upon them shall be green silk and brocade garments and they shall be adorned with bracelets of silver; their Lord having given them a cleansed drink.

It should be noted that the words “cleansed drink” as used in the Arabic language, clearly imply “cleansed from all vices”.

**

Dear amy

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Read Mad Scientist’s response again. You are saying that the word “cleansed” is redundant. What does that say about the credibility of the Qur’an.

Why would God need to distill wine, in Paradise? Give me a linguistic basis for your assertion that “cleansed” is effectively qualified by the terms distilled, filtered etc. I want to see whether your views have any corresponding basis which is logical to me.

They shoot partypoopers, don’t they?

amy · June 12, 2001, 9:15pm

Mr.Partypooper:

I don't agree with your conclusion. I didn't say anything was redundant. The keyword is intoxication. Clean doesn't mean devoid of intoxicating capablities. Once again you are trying to dig into it to extract what you think should be. Keep it simple.

Punjabi Kurhi

sholay · June 12, 2001, 11:29pm

Amy

I'll keep this very simple:

'Their thirst will be slaked with Pure Wine sealed': 83:025

'(Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)'? 47:015

'O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination,- of Satan’s handwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper'. 5:093

'They ask thee concerning wine and gambling. Say: "In them is great sin, and some profit, for men; but the sin is greater than the profit." They ask thee how much they are to spend; Say: "What is beyond your needs." Thus doth Allah Make clear to you His Signs: In order that ye may consider'- 2:219

So what you are actually saying is that the food and wine of Paradise will be the same as we get on Earth.

How would you define the Pure Wine from Paradise to the one on earth?

The above ayats are pretty self explanatory to me, but please give us your opinion.