Somebody just told me Alcohol is Halaal as long as you don’t drink enough to get yourself drunk, he thinks an odd beer during a meal with family and friends is perfectly fine.
Can somebody please confirm this for me?
Is there any such laws anywhere in Islam?
This guy claims to be a Sunni Hanafi.
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That guy is an idiot. Why listen to such idiots and ask question here about something that Quran clearly forbids.
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That's BS. I've never ever ever ever heard of alcohol being halal in any way. And no, makeup/lotion/etc doesn't count.
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Errr, I am not Muslim so I don't know the "laws" but I have heard this from other Muslims as well. Neither my husband or I drink, but we keep wine in the house for guests and quite a few Muslims have one glass.
Um, since most of our guests are from my husbands area, they are Sunni as well.
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sure people can drink... it doesn't make it halaal
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Ranjhan where do you come up with such silly notions! Alcohol is haram. Period. Halal in moderation my foot. If people wanna drink why make lame excuses such as it being halal in small bits. Sheesh 
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The reasoning wouldn't make any sense. Mainly because 1 glass of wine, beer or whatever has different effects on different people. Each person has a different tolerance level.
Some people I know will get tipsy with one glass.
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Folks,
This is not an advertisement for allowing alcohol to be halal.
Nowhere in the Quran is the word alcohol used in arabic terms. The word used is KHIMER or something which causes intoxication. There is a small minority of Muslim thinkers who belive that alcohol in moderation was and is permissable, but prohibited when going for prayers or places of worship.
Only incident narrated for punishing ontoxicated behavior was in the rule of Hazrat Umer (r), we do not find such offences being treated with punishment during the Prophets life or rule in Medina or Mecca. Hazrat Umer's case was also different because his son had made himself a public nuisance and exhibited clear signs of drunken behaviour.
According to the Quranic text, anything which causes human beings to lose their senses is haram. This cud be Niswar, Pan Thumbakoo, charas, ecstasy, alcohol, sex overdrive and lust for power. It is the principle which is important, not the generic names.
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u cannot find any example of anyone being punished for drinking in mecca because it was forbidden in madina....
and no one being punished in the time of the Prophet (saw) cud have been because
- no one drank
- no one was caught drinking
- someone was punished but the event never was narrated
what is mentioned in the Quran is not alcohol, but wine....
and hadith too clarifies it (if u really wish to follow hadith)....
and if it means toxicating as u mentioned above, then it just adds more things under the haraam umbrealla and still does not permit wine even in small quantities....
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the claim that niswar makes one lose his mind is totally false and baseless
also everyone in the Prophet's time stopped drinking the second they were told it was prophibited
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hadith's also don't cover every damn incident that happened. maybe there was an incident, but no one really reported it, or it wasn't included in the collection because no one was sure, etc etc. lots of reasons.
the idea is this - why take the chance?
And like I said, its stupid to say that one glass is allowed, because one glass has made people tipsy - I've seen it myself.
Well they call it a "buzz", but it makes them lose their senses a bit - people don't act like themselves.
So better just to stay away from it period - so everyone is on the same playing level.
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Minah I don’t think you’re supposed to keep alcohol in the home either. I think, anything that condones alcohol drinking, like going to a bar even if you don’t drink, offering alcohol etc etc isn’t allowed either. At least that’s what I’ve been told 
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^ Hey all is fair if you don’t intoxicate yourself or assist someone else to do so (that would be hypocritical if you did).
I dont see any problem in going to a bar. I dont go to them not because of the alcohol, but because I dont see the appeal. They’re boring. I’d rather go out and eat ice-cream 
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^ No way in hell would I keep alcohol in my home to serve guests, Muslim or not. If the Muslims want a drink they can get out and go to a bar. My home isn’t a den for sin 
lol
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Our Ahadeeth literature cover the minutest of details on issues which wud embarrass the most liberals of today, and u r assuming that no such incident was reported!! Something aint right in Denmark.
For the other simplistic assumptions well they are based on our common reverence for those ppl in their infallibility and our dep seated need to know there was once a perfect society. Well iam afraid u need to wake up and smell the coffee. Things happned even then and the Prophet in his great wisdom knew his new flock needed encouragement, motivation and set rules which can be followed with the utmost ease.
Like I said from the start, this was not intended to be a vote of yes for alcohol. Iam simply asserting how things hv been stated in the Quran.
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there r many issues which have not been covered in hadith and Quran and have been dealth with by fiqh....
ofcourse u wud need more knowledge of religion (i.e. Islam) to know all this....
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ofcourse u wud need more knowledge of religion (i.e. Islam) to know all this....
Now, you KNOW that will piss him off. Why not discuss the religious topic without hurling snide comments?
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How many times do u hv to be told to understand a simple statement: Iam only quoting what is written in the Quran and related Ahadeeth. Get it!!!
Now in your own insecure, whinning, small, narrow-minded world of ‘I dont wanna believe it’ there are no doors or windows for ppl stuck in it to try and comprehend a intellectual discourse such as these. Thus the urgency to react and throw tantrums in form of cheapish snides. Well dear, for your information Fiqh cannot be compared to the Quran and Ahadeeth. Get it!!! If you think some xyz said something 100-200years after the message was delivered has the same significance as to what the Quran and Ahadeeth said, then there is something fundamentally wrong with your understanding (misunderstanding).
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fartguru, dude relax. Gupshup often has this effect on people. Go have a cold one instead (moderation is the key), it'll help you forget.
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The word is “Liquor”
Alcohol is always present in most of the homes
Alcohol is a chemical used interchangably for anything liquor like, which IMO is totally wrong.
Alcohol that is ethyle alcohol (ethanol) is used for too many puposes, only one of them is use in beverages.
**Methanol → CH3-OH **
Ethanol → CH3-CH2-OH
(these two are most popular, there are many other chemicals which belong to the family and called alcohol)
Methnol is poisonous, mostly used in chemicals, perfumes etc. Ever heard villagers died in Pakistan after drinking poisonous liquor, That liquor contained methnol
Ethanol:
Used in drinks
Use as preservative
use in medicine
use in chemical industory
host of other products
So in short any drink, food which make the person lose senses, is haraam according to Quran, Liquor is just one part of it.