Re: Alcohol consumption in Pakistan: Don’t mix sin with crime
And so can be mine. Since I am bashful, I will not say mine is true. I will leave that up to the reader. ![]()
It is not the religius people who have any confusion over alcohol being haram and prohibited by Allah.
It is the periodic itch irreligious people have… to find some way to show it is not.
This very thread is an excellent example. ![]()
As to the madhabs and maslaks, there is no real or concrete dispute.
Irreligious and secular people make it a big deal so they can somehow show majority of Muslims with different schools of thought differ and are hell bent on killing each other. Absolutely NOT true. It’s all in their heads.
As it is,… the real truth on the ground is that: **
Vast majority of Muslims of all different sects and madhabs live side by side and peacefully and respect each other or try to be quiet about each other’s religious views if they are intermingled.
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Let’s ignore your word of clowns for the one who possesses religious knowledge but not in your personal view… let’s focus on your latter part of sentence.
You referred to the thread recently posted on a religious person who actually said the truth. Two different threads were started on that topic.
And I posted that in Religious/Philosophy forum that he said the truth and did not get answer. He was right. Islamically, there is no obligation for men to ask permission from his first wife to get married to second one. And that is the truth. Agree or not.
Now: On the surface it looked like the religious scholar only talked about not needing permission of first wife before a man gets married to another woman or age limit to be lower than other countries for marriage.
But:
What was deliberately not talked about that other issues which were also discussed. ( I pointed out that also)
Secular/Anti-religious/Irreligious people have control over mass media and they love to bring anything which would make religion and religious people look bad.
**Media is biased and deliberately portrayed religion and religious people wrong.
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Filtering the information to get the intended result that is how it is done all over the world. **Gullible people fall for **it.
But you will not see religious people asking for their approval would you?
Yes.
But why look at those so called religious leaders and the ones who are political?**
As an educated class of people should we not focus on what other non-political religious people say about many social and religious issues?**
Lots of religious people who are not political say the same thing about alcohol.
It has to be criminalized for goodness of the society in Pakistan for many reasons.
Some mentioned by Kakaballi.
Disagreed.
it is the non-religious/secular or anti-religious who bring these issues on table periodically or regularly.
If nothing else, they start threads on these topics supporting, but not religiously inclined people bashing these.
When was the last time any religiously inclined person opened a thread on Valentine bashing, Thanks giving bashing, Jean bashing, Music bashing, Christian, Jew, Hindu bashing? Really? Seriously!
What I said that religiously inclined people are very content and fine.
It is the anti-religious people who are hell bent in bashing religion or its dogma or its followers in order to look smart even though I have found irreligious people to be completely lacking any intelligence and reasoning and I know of a lot of them. They bring nothing substantial to support their claims.
Agreed. ![]()