Al Qaeda may be plotting large attacks in Pakistan

This is a golden opportunity for Al Qaeda to apply it’s strategy of bringing down a state. Large scale bombings on high value targets will serve 2 purposes: 1) Shake the resolve of the public and security agencies who may once again panic and try to do “peace”/surrender deal with talibs. 2) Western countries will get even more ammo to remain skeptical of Pakistan’s ability to defeat the jihadists and may move to secure our nukes.

I wouldn’t be surprised if sensitive military bases or nuke sites like PAF kohat, kahuta, sarghoda may be hit in the coming weeks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/11/world/asia/11intel.html

Shaky Pakistan Is Seen as a Target of Plots by Al Qaeda

By MARK MAZZETTI and ERIC SCHMITT
Published: May 10, 2009

WASHINGTON — As Taliban militants push deeper into Pakistan’s settled areas, foreign operatives of Al Qaeda who had focused on plotting attacks against the West are seizing on the turmoil to sow chaos in Pakistan and strengthen the hand of the militant Islamist groups there, according to American and Pakistani intelligence officials.

One indication came April 19, when a truck parked inside a Qaeda compound in South Waziristan, in Pakistan’s tribal areas, erupted in a fireball when it was struck by a C.I.A. missile. American intelligence officials say that the truck had been loaded with high explosives, apparently to be used as a bomb, and that while its ultimate target remains unclear, the bomb would have been more devastating than the suicide bombing that killed more than 50 people at the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad in September.

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And that drone attack alone likely saved the lives of many innocent pakistanis.

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uh, any Al Qaeda attack in Pakistan at this point is just going to peeve everyone off even more --> the military offensive will gain momentum.

I don't think Pakistanis are in the mood to cower down anymore. People are generally angry at this point and want these guys taken out.

In normal sane societies not affected by the mental disease of islamist propaganda, this may be true, but this pakistan, where concepts of jihad=kill everyone, muslim superiority, ummah etc. are ingrained in the psyche.

i think you're generalizing a bit too much. jihad does not mean kill everyone. muslim superiority is as valid as jewish superiority of being chosen people of G-d, ummah is unity of all muslims and i see nothing wrong with that, when the time comes you'll have the chance to not be a part of the ummah if you're so opposed to it.

painting everyone with the same brush does no one any good and taints your own credibility.

as far as AlQaeda is concerned, and its plotting attacks in Pakistan, well we all know TTP is responsible for that, i do hope the security forces are more vigilant after the past few major blasts we've had.

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I seriously believe if establishment of Pakistan fully come against Al-Qaeda/Taliban, then they can't even stand 24 hour in front of them.

Shaky Pakistan Is Seen as a Target of Plots by Al Qaeda

Those who condemn American drone attacks should read this. This probably saved 100s of innocent Pakistani lives.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/11/world/middleeast/11intel.html?hp

** Shaky Pakistan Is Seen as a Target of Plots by Al Qaeda **

By MARK MAZZETTI and ERIC SCHMITT
Published: May 10, 2009
WASHINGTON — As Taliban militants push deeper into Pakistan’s settled areas, foreign operatives of Al Qaeda who had focused on plotting attacks against the West are seizing on the turmoil to sow chaos in Pakistan and strengthen the hand of the militant Islamist groups there, according to American and Pakistani intelligence officials.
One indication came April 19, when a truck parked inside a Qaeda compound in South Waziristan, in Pakistan’s tribal areas, erupted in a fireball when it was struck by a C.I.A. missile. American intelligence officials say that the truck had been loaded with high explosives, apparently to be used as a bomb, and that while its ultimate target remains unclear, the bomb would have been more devastating than the suicide bombing that killed more than 50 people at the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad in September.
Al Qaeda’s leaders — a predominantly Arab group of Egyptians, Saudis and Yemenis, as well as other nationalities like Uzbeks — for years have nurtured ties to Pakistani militant groups like the Taliban operating in the mountains of Pakistan. The foreign operatives have historically set their sights on targets loftier than those selected by the local militant groups, aiming for spectacular attacks against the West, but they may see new opportunity in the recent violence.
Intelligence officials say the Taliban advances in Swat and Buner, which are closer to Islamabad than to the tribal areas, have already helped Al Qaeda in its recruiting efforts. The officials say the group’s recruiting campaign is currently aimed at young fighters across the Middle East, North Africa and Central Asia who are less inclined to plan and carry out far-reaching global attacks and who have focused their energies on more immediate targets.
“They smell blood, and they are intoxicated by the idea of a jihadist takeover in Pakistan,” said Bruce O. Riedel, a former analyst for the C.I.A. who recently led the Obama administration’s policy review of Pakistan and Afghanistan.
It remains unlikely that Islamic militants could seize power in Pakistan, given the strength of Pakistan’s military, according to American intelligence analysts. But a senior American intelligence official expressed concern that recent successes by the Taliban in extending territorial gains could foreshadow the creation of “mini-Afghanistans” around Pakistan that would allow militants even more freedom to plot attacks.
American government officials and terrorism experts said that Al Qaeda’s increasing focus on a local strategy was partly born from necessity, as the C.I.A.’s intensifying airstrikes have reduced the group’s ability to hit targets in the West. The United States has conducted 16 drone strikes so far this year, according to American officials, compared with 36 strikes in all of 2008.
According to a Pakistani intelligence assessment provided to The New York Times in February, Al Qaeda has adapted to the deaths of its leaders by shifting “to conduct decentralized operations under small but well-organized regional groups” within Pakistan and Afghanistan. At the same time, the group has intensified its recruiting, to replace its airstrike casualties.
One of Al Qaeda’s main goals in Pakistan, the assessment said, was to “stage major terrorist attacks to create a feeling of insecurity, embarrass the government and retard economic development and political progress.”
The Qaeda operatives are foreigners inside Pakistan, and experts say that the group’s leaders, like Osama bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, appear to be wary of claiming credit for the violence in the country, possibly creating popular backlash against the group.
“They are trying to take an Arab face off this,” said Bruce Hoffman, a terrorism expert at Georgetown University.
“If you look at Al Qaeda as a brand, they know when to broadcast the brand, as the group has done in North Africa,” Mr. Hoffman said. “And they know when to cloak the brand, as it has done in Pakistan.”
As a result, it is difficult for American officials to assess exactly which recent attacks in Pakistan are the work of Qaeda operatives. But intelligence officials say they believe that the Marriott Hotel bombing was partly planned by Usama al-Kini, a Kenyan Qaeda operative who was killed in Pakistan by a C.I.A. drone on New Year’s Day.
According to Mr. Hoffman, Al Qaeda may be trying to achieve a separate goal: getting the C.I.A. to call off its campaign of airstrikes in the tribal areas. A wave of terrorist violence could foment so much popular discontent with the government of President Asif Ali Zardari, he said, that Pakistan might then try to pressure the Obama administration to scale back its drone campaign.
For now, however, Obama administration officials say they believe that the covert airstrikes are the best tool at their disposal to strike at Al Qaeda inside Pakistan, which remains the group’s most important haven, but where large numbers of American combat forces would never be welcome.
The April 19 strike that hit what appeared to have been a truck bomb in a compound used by Al Qaeda set off an enormous secondary explosion, intelligence officials say. A second, empty truck destroyed in the same attack may also have been there to be outfitted with explosives, they say.
In another significant attack, on April 29, missiles fired from a C.I.A. Predator killed Abu Sulayman al-Jazairi, an Algerian Qaeda planner who American intelligence officials say they believe helped train operatives for attacks in Europe and the United States.
Still, officials caution that Al Qaeda has not abandoned its goal of “spectacular” attacks in the United States and Europe. According to one American counterterrorism official, the group continues to plan attacks outside its sanctuary in the tribal areas, aiming at targets in the West and elsewhere in Pakistan.
“They are opportunistic to the extent they perceive vulnerabilities with the uncertain nature of Pakistani politics and the security situation in Swat and Buner,” said the American counterterrorism official, who like other officials interviewed for this article was not authorized to speak publicly on intelligence issues. “They’re trying to exploit it.”
In meetings this past week in Washington, American and Pakistani officials discussed the possibility of limited joint operations with American Predator and Reaper drones.
Under one proposal, the United States would retain control over the firing of missiles, but it would share with the Pakistani security forces some sophisticated imagery and communications intercepts that could be relayed to Pakistani combat forces on the ground.
C.I.A. officials for months have resisted requests by Mr. Zardari to share the drone technology. In a television interview broadcast Sunday, the Pakistani leader said he would keep pressing to get his own Predator fleet.
“I’ve been asking for them, but I haven’t got a positive answer as yet,” Mr. Zardari said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

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1 successful missile strike still does not do justice to the huge number of civil casualties from all the collective drone attacks so far. perhaps if the drone operators didn't play "trigger happy", the strikes might be more successful. A better idea would be to give the uav technology to Pakistan, so it can put them to better use using local intelligence which would probably be far more accurate.

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Already posted, please merge

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Extremism is not good! period! but it applies to all!

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This gives us all the more reason to eliminate them Al Qaida and the killer taliban ... If their islam tells them to destroy a muslim state and kill the muslims , then we might as well burn them to death. Inshallah we will. They will see the justice in the world and the hereafter ...

Civilian casualties are unfortunate, but its similar to how hizbullah had embedded themselves amongst the people colonies ... the government should take better steps to help the refugees definitely. however the armed forces should keep the offensive on and flush them taliban out.

May Allah guide us all.