Al Qaeda bigwhig blown to bits

Ah the wonders of technology…one by one..way to go US. :k:

U.S. missile strike kills al Qaeda chief
CIA drone launched missile
Tuesday, November 5, 2002 Posted: 12:34 PM EST (1734 GMT)

Former bin Laden security guard Abu Ali

SANAA, Yemen (CNN) – In a CNN interview, a top Pentagon official called a missile strike that killed six suspected al Qaeda members in Yemen “a very successful tactical operation” and said the U.S. must “keep the pressure on” terrorists wherever they are.

U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz told CNN’s Maria Ressa “one hopes each time you get a success like that, not only to have gotten rid of somebody dangerous, but to have imposed changes in their tactics and operations and procedures.”

Sources had earlier told CNN an unmanned CIA Predator drone launched a “Hellfire” missile early Monday and struck a car carrying the men, including the al Qaeda chief in that country who was wanted for the bombing of the USS Cole.

It was the first direct U.S. strike against Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda network outside Afghanistan since the U.S.-led war on terrorism was launched in the wake of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks against the United States.

“Sometimes when people are changing,” Wolfowitz said, “they expose themselves in new ways. So we just got to keep the pressure on everywhere we are able to, and we’ve got to deny the sanctuaries everywhere we are able to, and we’ve got to put pressure on every government that is giving these people support to get out of that business.”

Video from the scene showed the car blown completely apart, with most of it reduced to black ash in the desert.

Sources identified one of the dead as Abu Ali, also known as Qaed Senyan al-Harthi, a former bin Laden security guard who was believed to have played a major role in the October 2000 attack on the destroyer Cole that killed 17 sailors.

The attack took place in the oil rich Marib province in Yemen.

Walid Al-Saqqaf, managing editor of the Yemen Times, told CNN that Ali was identified as the one in the vehicle by a mark on his leg, which was blown off in the blast and found near the scene.

He said Ali, who has been on the run and was believed to be harbored by tribesmen, has been the source of a massive hunt by security forces in Yemen. An attempt to capture him late last year failed. That botched attempt left more than a dozen security forces dead.

About 50 U.S. Special Forces troops have been in the country training Yemeni security forces. There was no immediate indication they took part in this strike.

President Bush did not comment directly on the incident in Yemen during a campaign rally in Arkansas, but he did say the United States is pursuing “international killers.”

“The only way to find them is to be patient and steadfast and hunt them down. And the United States of America is doing just that,” Bush said.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld spoke of Ali at the Pentagon briefing Monday when questioned about the attack.

“It would be a very good thing if he were out of business,” Rumsfeld said.

Rumsfeld said the U.S.-Yemen relationship “has been a good one and it’s ongoing.” He noted that Yemen’s President Ali Abdullah Saleh visited the Pentagon and agreed to cooperate in the war on terrorism.

“As a result, we have some folks in that country that have been working with the government and helping them think through ways of doing things,” Rumsfeld said.

“And it’s been a good cooperation, and we’ve shared some information, and we think that over time it ought to be beneficial.”

Rumsfeld said a number of al Qaeda members are known to be hiding in Yemen, slipping into the country by sea and through its sparsely populated border areas – what he said are used “advantageously by terrorists.”

They should jst line them up and do bowling with grenades using these clowns as pins.

Of course we can always make them follow the example of Irv Rubin who is brain dead due to suicide attempt. although some may say he was always brain dead.

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They should jst line them up and do bowling with grenades using these clowns as pins.

Of course we can always make them follow the example of Irv Rubin who is brain dead due to suicide attempt. although some may say he was always brain dead.
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Fraudia: You already already have a thread with a lovely topic heading talking about the JDl leader....this thread is about the islamic terrorist not the jewish one.

Terrorists are terrorists, why isolate muslim terrorists from Jewish ones. Any person undertaking such abominable steps against humanity in the name of religion should be punished and criticised.

I for one and extremely happy that the locals are working with the US in many countries.

The way US has been decieved by these guys before I won't be surprised if it was actually a card board car with some sheep inside while the real guys were celebrating picnic in park next to the highway.

My guess is that we will soon hear claims that it was only one Al Qaeda terrorist and the other five dead were members of a wedding party. :)

Good riddance to another cockroach. Wouldn't surprise me in the least to learn that OBL, if alive now, will meet the same fate. Soon as he crawls out from under the floorboards, a Predator will rain Hellfire down upon him.

Channji you are right. many of the incidents of local deaths or friendly fire incidents in afghanistan for example, were due to faulty intelligence from local parties who had their own primitive tribal axes to grind. I hope the yemenies are not as primitive as the pashtoons.

It's just a matter of time myvoice...we have enough RAID for the cockroaches.

I don't support assassinations (which sometimes is also known as regime change) under any circumstances. They should have been arrested, extradited & then tried in court.

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Fraudia: You already already have a thread with a lovely topic heading talking about the JDl leader....this thread is about the islamic terrorist not the jewish one.
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oh i was just recommending that terrorists of all inclinations follow the great final example set by Irv and follow in his footsteps :)

yeah Ahmadijee..you are right...they should be arrested, extradited, have their day in court and proven guilty beyond doubt..just like they did to the guys working in the twin towers that morning. Very justiceful nice and clean.
Sorry to say but only iron cuts iron.

Chanji, with the same rhetoric the "terrorist" say; 'they come in colonize our land/resources, butcher our men, rape our women and the only justice is to go bomb their places, hijack their planes & make their citizens hostages'

Victory is not to overcome the enemy but to stand on higher moral grounds & do the "right thing" regardless of what the outcome.

And yes, you are more than welcome to disagree. :)

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AJ Bhai: Who's responsibility is to debunk these myths? The US or the leaders (whether political or religious) in their own countries.

CH bhaijaan: I don't support any debunking, which goes against the very justice system that US & it's citizens take pride in.

Remember when I said? Ends don't justify the means! I am not a hypocrite you know ...

Sets a dangerous precedent. What is an even more frightening thought, IMO, is how we have accepted this latest unilateral act by the US. Since when is the targeted killing of individuals, EVEN IF they are suspected of being al Qaeda terrorists, permitted in the absence of a due trial or in the absence of at least presenting to the rest of the world the apparently irrefutable evidence? What if Cuba should decide tomorrow that it, too, wishes to take out some terrorists in another country and goes ahead with its desire? Laws don’t just apply for the weak.


Even as the bullets ricochet, it should be said there are some problems with this approach to international peacekeeping. For a start, it is illegal. The Yemen attack violates basic rules of sovereignty. It is an act of war where no war has been declared. It killed people, some of whom who may have been criminals, but who will never now face trial. It assassinated men who may have been planning attacks. But who can tell? It is, at best, irresponsible extra-judicial killing, at worst a premeditated, cold-blooded murder of civilians. And it is also, and this is no mere afterthought, morally unsustainable. Those who authorised this act have some serious ethical as well as legal questions to answer. That there is no prospect at all that they will, and no insistence by Britain or others that they do so, only renders ever more appalling the moral pit which gapes and beckons.

…] Stateless, gangster terrorism is a fearsome scourge. But state-sponsored terrorism is a greater evil, for it is waged by those who should know better, who are duty-bound to address causes not mere symptoms, who may claim to act in the people’s name. As Alexander Herzen said in another age of struggle: “We are not the doctors. We are the disease.” Drones of death, The Guardian Editorial, 6 November 2002

I second AJ's stand on this issue. Its dangerous to kill someone "suspect" in other's land, US is going too far to "hunt" Al-Qaeda. This only proves one thing: US Govt. is equal to terrorists, the difference is that terrorists do it without coming in front and without occupying a government office of a country. They both do same, kill opponents without justice.

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AJ Bhai: Who's responsibility is to debunk these myths? The US or the leaders (whether political or religious) in their own countries.
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Then half of local terrorists in Bronx, Harlem and other cool places of America should be brought to justice in this way. Very clever thinking!
Just imagine what would happen if they start doing so, I don't think America will exist any more.

Riveting stuff.

The US has decided to fight an unconventional enemy in an unconventional manner...

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Then half of local terrorists in Bronx, Harlem and other cool places of America should be brought to justice in this way.

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Unfortunately, for you, none of these terrorists from Bronx, Harlem and other Cool places of America are flying planes into building or even planning for them. Their activities are limited to the residents of Bronx, Harlem etc.

Sorry to burst your bubble of outrage Nadia but the successful elimination of these Al Qaeda terrorists couldn’t violate the basic rules of sovereignty since Yemen is the sovereign and is obviously working and/or cooperating with and/or approving of the US actions.

Further, while you suggest it is an act of war where no war has been declared, you are wrong. I can’t think of how the US could have used stronger language to let you and the world know that it is engaged in a war against terrorism in general and Al Qaeda in particular. This guy chose Yemen as his battlefield and now he is just part of the sand blowing away in the wind.