aik real masla...

So she’s depressed and I’ve no clue how to deal with it. Usually there was someone there before to deal wiht it, ages ago, when I was oblivious to everythng, but now it’s just me and there’s no way to ignore it. It’s just the same, tired, weary expression and voice, day in day out, maybe a lil smile here and there but no joy, only . . . . misery. She’s miserable, and she’s miserable because of me and yet she won’t let go. There’s no pleasure in anything for her here. I know she won’t do anything drastic but I can’t help thinking, what if?

I don’t know what to do.

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Find out what she likes to do and do it with her - continuously remind her how worth living is. A good bout of volunteering with the homeless or abused or something like that should help make her realize that she's lucky and she should take advantage of the good life she has, regardless of the ups/downs she's had.

Easier said than done. :)

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Wow, that is hard. You can try to help her by letting her do stuff she normally likes. Force her to be busy with one of her hobby's or something.

Actually, you can force her a little. She should be willing to get out of her depression too. Remember: You Can't Help A Person Who Doesn't Want To Be Helped.

Also don't forget yourself. It can become depressing for yourself too while trying to help a depressed person.

I had a crazy friend some years ago. Well, I guess crazy attracks crazy, heehee. :-D

But seriously. She felt lonely (she is from Turkey and has very little family here) and she kept calling me and telling me to come over. I often went, even though I didn't always feel like it. I kept thinking, hey she will get over those feelings, everyone is depressed once in a while. Then she will be 'normal' again. She told me a huge secret. There was this other woman we both knew. They both really disliked each other. I ran into her in town and we both went to have lunch with our children in McDonalds. We were both tired from hunting clothes in sales and it was a good relax. Apparently not, my depressed friend saw us together and she started arguing and left in tears. She thought I was telling her secret to the woman she hates! Well, I had it. I went to her place later that day to tell her it's better we are not friends for some time, because it was too much for me already, and what happened today was the last drop. She started yelling at me, she wanted to apologise, which I wouldn't take. Now I feel sorry about not giving in... because she yelled, 'you don't believe me, I will make you believe me', ran in the kitchen, grabbed a knife and started cutting her wrist in a fury! I couldn't take that knife away from her, but thank God the front door was still open, the neighbours ran in and finally someone managed to take the knife. She just sat on the floor and didn't say anything for a while.
I stayed there so she wouldn't try something again. We called a doctor, she got pills to calm herself down and the next day she was quite normal again.
She said she didn't even feel the pain of cutting her wrist. She was just so mad and now she felt sorry she did it.

It was very very scary. And the thought that she might do it again if she becomes mad the next time is even more scary.

Nobody saw it coming. She seemed normal, just a bit depressed.

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Sadya... thanks for that story. Now I'm even more worried.

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oops, didn't mean to worry you more.

In the case of my friend and I, it was hurtful for me, that she would actually think I would tell her secret behind her back. I was sad about it so I wouldn't give in easily. A big mistake obviously... Also I should have noticed there was not much progress and asked her to seek professional help I guess. We did get an appointment later, but I don't think she went. There you go: you can't help a person who doesn't want to be helped.

Also she has a history of trying stuff like that, she once told another friend and I that she tried similar things while growing up. But she was so normal we all never thought she would actually do something like that by the time we knew her!

Your friend doesn't seem to have a history of doing something like this before. So I don't think it will go that far, insha Allah.

I just think it is very important that depression should be taken serious. Often people think a depressed person is a loser, someone not capable of handling life or something, a nag... While it's not the case, depression is a serious problem.
It can be hard to get out of it. It really is hurtful when people make fun of it or think the depressed person is a cissy!

On the other hand, helping a depressed person can take its toll on you personally. If everything you try doesn't help and you feel you're becoming depressed too, you should consider searching outside help.

Probably the best thing to do would be namaz and Quran, it gives strength. I often had depression problems myself. Also I have periods when I don't do my namaz on time, when I don't pay that much attention to my prayers, I noticed I get more depressed. It really makes a great difference.

And make her do the stuff she usually enjoys, even though she might not feel like doing it now. That helps too. Depression doesn't just go away by sitting and waiting until you feel better. You really have to make en effort yourself to get rid of your depression.

Good luck to your friend and you. :)

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Sara516, I don’t know if your friend is Muslim or not, but this article might be helpful, it is long though, I just copied and pasted it without cutting anything out:

(source:http://sisters.islamway.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=15883&highlight=depression)

Islamic Oases From Daily Stress
By Sahar Talaat, MD*

In our highly regimented, fast moving, competitive environments, we frequently complain of unresolved feelings of alienation, inadequacy, and personal powerlessness. Many face a constant feeling of insecurity, and worry about their own basic survival and ability to measure up. This stressful lifestyle produces many types of mental and physical illnesses in modern societies(1).

As it is not possible to change the style or pace of our modern life, we need to discover suitable mechanisms to cope with daily stress(2). The Prophet Muhammad (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) told us that we could find this internal peace and relaxation during praying.

It was reported by Imam Ahmad in (Al Musnad) that the Prophet (May peace and blessings be upon him) has told Bilal “call for the prayers, it will comfort us.”

This raises very important questions: Why do different forms of worship lose their capacity to help us cope with stress; and how can they be performed in a better way to improve their capacity to help us cope with stress?

Before considering the different types of worship and their mechanisms in combating stress, let’s define the different types of stress, their mechanisms of action and their adverse effects on human beings.

Psychological Stress: Types and Effects

The body tends to show signs of chronic stress very gradually, so the onset of stress may actually go unnoticed in its early stages. Symptoms of stress may appear so gradually that some people are unaware of the severity of their stress condition until they suffer a general nervous breakdown(3).

It was found that when one is experiencing stress, one’s brain produces high levels of two specific hormones: adrenaline and cortisol. This response is called the “Fight or Flight response”. The body prepares itself for a fight or for an escape from a fight by releasing these two hormones, which gives the body a temporary increase of strength and energy(2).

This hormonal response mechanism is considered to be “the general stress response syndrome”. This chemical stress response is entirely appropriate for the short-term. It is these hormones that make one able to respond more efficiently, both physically and mentally, to the hazards in one’s environment (4).

These hormones are not normally dangerous in the short-term. The problem only begins to surface when these messages of danger or emergency continue to be broadcast from the psyche over long periods of time. The situation gets worse when there seems to be no option to confronting the stressful situation directly, or to escaping from it in any way. Feeling trapped by the circumstances, the mind responds to the permanent warnings of impending emergency by manufacturing more and more of these hormones. Ultimately, these hormones have no physical or mental outlet and the energy just implodes, collapses in on itself, and produces a chaos of energy(3).

The response to stress can be divided into three stages:

  1. The alarm stage: in which there is an increase in the level of previously mentioned hormones.

  2. The resistance stage: during which the body utilizes the produced energy.

  3. The exhaustion stage: which results from persistency of the stresses over a long period of time (2).

Stresses can be classified according to their period of exposure into temporary intermittent stresses and chronic persistent stresses. Considering sources of stresses, they can also be classified into internal stresses (which are related to personal characteristics) and external stresses. In addition, they can be classified according to their effects on individual health into a good type of stress (eustress) or a destructive type of stress. Good stress is defined as the ability to respond to the challenges of life in a way that promotes stimulation and encourages personal growth; stress management tools can facilitate this reaction. Examples of destructive, unhealthy reactions to stress are feeling overwhelmed or anxious (2).

This stressful life can produce many types of mental and physical illnesses and imposes its effects on body, psyche and mind. Some of the possible symptoms of prolonged exposure to stress are headache, brain tissue damage, high blood pressure, heart disease, weakening of the bones, general immune deficiency, muscle tension, menstrual disorders, miscarriage, depression, anger, fear and nervousness. If the body’s immune system is allowed to deteriorate because of stress, it may lead to other serious medical conditions such as a variety of malignancies (3).

Coping With Stress: Islamic Viewpoint

Medicine has been proven to be inefficient in dealing with the original causes of stress, nor can it adequately eliminate all of its symptoms. Medicine may be necessary for a person in the most critical stages of chronic stress, but medicine alone may not be enough to achieve a cure for all its symptoms. Scientists are trying to find new strategies to cope with stress and minimize its effects. These include relaxation techniques, meditation, imagination (2, 5) and Yoga (6). These techniques are extensively studied to determine their effects and mechanisms of action. Different studies have confirmed the efficacy of these techniques in coping with stress and eliminating its effects. These techniques are now entering the medical mainstream and are included in many treatment programs (2).

Most of these techniques are rooted in Islamic spirituality and different Islamic forms of worship, ‘ibadatat, which can be – if performed in the correct manner – considered as good tools for coping with life’s stresses.

Those who are extremely stressed can find peace and relaxation for their minds, body and soul utilizing the following different Islamic ‘oases’; in terms of a safe place where one can seek refuge from the ‘desert’ of life:

  1. The Faith (iman) Oasis: Some people are more able to cope with stress than others. The determining factor of the level of stress experienced is the perception of something as a threat, which triggers the stress response, and not the threat itself.

It seems that the stress response is not created by any particular type of event or situation but rather by the way that event is perceived. It turns out then that stress response is a matter of perception, or awareness. The stress reaction is activated by neural perceptions or by what amounts to one’s worldview. A worldview can be described as the prism of ideas and beliefs through which the world is perceived and judged. This means that your worldview becomes central to the way any stressful circumstance is handled (2, 3). Islamic spiritual practices can dramatically alter your worldview and thereby restore your feelings of self worth and personal meaning, giving you a feeling of deeply rooted power and control.

Control has been found to be a key factor in the psychology of chronic stress. It has been observed in clinical studies that the extent to which you feel that you are in control of your environment, is the extent to which you will, or will not, experience the hormonal stress response. Those who feel most powerless or unable to control their circumstances tend to experience the highest levels of stress. On the other hand, those who feel they have great personal control and power over themselves and their environment will be much less likely to experience the hormonal stress response, and this is regardless of the potential seriousness of the threat (2). In Islam, Muslims feel Allah, Who controls the whole world and all the creatures in it, supports them.

It was reported by Omar may Allah be pleased with him that the Prophet has said: “if you people depended on Allah as you should, He would provide for you as he provides for the birds leaving their nests hungry and coming back satisfied.”

  1. The Meditation and Relaxation Oasis: Meditation is being riveted on any one idea or object to the exclusion of all other ideas or objects. Meditation is really a natural quality of the mind. With meditation, the mind is trained to pay attention and to follow commands. In this way one learns to quiet the thought traffic in one’s mind, thereby freeing up mental and physical energy. The basis of meditation is to adopt a posture of body and mind that allows one to remain comfortable for long periods of time without expending significant amounts of energy (7).

Dr. Herbert Benson, a Harvard University physician, researched the physiologic effects of meditation in the early 1970s. He coined the term “relaxation response” to refer to the stress-reducing effects of meditation, which we now know can be elicited through a variety of relaxation practices including meditation (.

In the mid-1980s, Dr. Dean Ornish, clinical professor of medicine at the University of California, incorporated an extensive meditation program into a comprehensive lifestyle program for patients with heart disease. Data published from his five-year trial revealed reductions in total and low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol, decreased anginal symptoms, and regression of coronary artery disease (9).

Meditation works by eliciting the relaxation response. The relaxation response is characterized by decreased heart rate, respiratory rate, oxygen consumption, and muscle tension. Meditation seems to produce these changes to a greater extent and more efficiently than sleep. For example, reports from Dr. Benson’s work show that oxygen (O2) consumption diminishes by 8 percent during restful sleep over the course of four to five hours, while the relaxation response results in a 10 to 17 percent reduction of O2 consumption in a matter of minutes (4).

Other studies demonstrate significant reduction in total peripheral resistance (TPR) and systolic blood pressure in those practicing meditation regularly. TPR is the maximum degree of resistance to blood flow caused by constriction of the systemic blood vessels. Reduction of TPR will reduce the overall blood pressure (10). Studies also showed diminished lipid peroxide levels resulting in reduced oxidative damage(11). Also, meditation was used intensively and effectively in control of cases with chronic pain (12) and anxiety disorders (13). Meditation by concentrating on Allah’s creatures (plants, animals, space, human body, etc.) is considered one of the most efficient and powerful forms of Islamic worship.

In this form of meditation, one concentrates on an object or group of objects from the same category (categorical meditation).

Those who remember Allah standing and sitting and lying on their sides and reflect on the creation of the heavens and the earth: Our Lord! Thou hast not created this in vain! Glory be to Thee; save us then from the chastisement of the fire: (3: 192)

  1. The Imagination Oasis:this is considered one of the most powerful methods of stress reduction. During this practice, the person imagines that he or she is in a place, which gives him internal peace, calmness and rest. Muslims can find their safe place through imagining what will be present in the Paradise.

Abu Hurairah, may Allah be pleased with him, reported:
Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, said: I have prepared for My pious servants’ bounties which no eye (has ever) seen, no ear has (ever) heard and no human heart has ever perceived.”

  1. The Praying Oasis: This includes all of the previously mentioned oases including meditation, remembrance and imagination. While praying, each one of us feels that we are in extreme connection with the controlling power of this world (Allah) and that from Him we receive maximum support.

O you who believe! seek assistance through patience and prayer; surely Allah is with the patient.(2: 153)

It was reported by Gaber may Allah be pleased with him that the Prophet has said: “your prayers are like a flowing river at your doorstep you wash yourself in it five times a day”

Recent scientific investigations show that praying reduces post-operative complications following open-heart surgery. Praying also markedly reduces the percentage of patients exposed to depression following hospitalization (14).

Nowadays, doctors suggest that praying can be used as an alternative therapy as successfully as meditation, exercise, or herbal treatments. According to Koenig of Duke University, “when prayer uplifts or calms, it inhibits cortisol, epinephrine, and norepinephrine - hormones that flow out of the adrenal glands in response to stress. These fight-or-flight chemicals, released over time, can compromise the immune system, upping the odds of developing any number of illnesses, including heart disease, stroke, peptic ulcers, and inflammatory bowel disorder (IBS).”

Many experts feel that the immune system is strengthened and nourished by a sense of peace elicited during praying. Many doctors believe that praying with their patients before and after surgery or before administering a course of powerful drugs might actually assist in the patient’s recovery (15).

Five prayers have been prescribed to us daily. This is a good chance to make use of that time not only for spiritual enhancement but also for physical and psychological healing. Although Ramadan has passed, its spirit should still be fresh in our hearts and minds. Investing this spirit into our daily prayers and meditations could well be the way to a stronger and more relaxing mental health

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