Brilliant move, lets see where it all ended up 
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008\06\16\story_16-6-2008_pg7_15
ISLAMABAD: The aid given to Pakistan in the war on terror will be subject to an audit, Minister for Finance, Revenue, Economic Affairs and Privatisation Syed Naveed Qamar said on Sunday. He said the aid package offered to Pakistan to fight terrorism would also be accounted for. app
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Yes, Zardari needs his cut too
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Kehkashan, this is one of those things you are afraid of, just like the probe into Mushararfs unprecedented nuclear proliferation and his messed up Kargil operation.
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This investigation is an excellent move. My gut suspicion is that too much of this aid was spent building up the conventional army for conflict on the eastern border, rather than spending it on the FC that did the fighting against terrorists.
This investigation is an excellent move. My gut suspicion is that too much of this aid was spent building up the conventional army for conflict on the eastern border, rather than spending it on the FC that did the fighting against terrorists.
So? US has its own self serving interests in supporting Pakistan, why should we have to justify the spending?
US are no different than the British colonists in their manipulation of Pakistan.
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I wonder who paid for all the gunships & UAV's.
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Lahore ka cheetah, alot of aid that came in during the 80s to fight the proxy war against the Soviets went into some generals pockets who became millionaires overnight. At the same time alot of the aid was stockpiled, and we have credible evidence to confirm this, Ohjri Camp being a prime example. Now this was still done despite the fact that the proxy war was won, so there was more than enough to be mismanaged, and quite possibly the same happened here, but I guess we can only wait till this accountability takes place (something very rare).
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Sure.
So? US has its own self serving interests in supporting Pakistan, why should we have to justify the spending?
US are no different than the British colonists in their manipulation of Pakistan.
Yada, yada, yada. Yeah, the US manipulates all of their colonies, like Puerto Rico (which voted NOT to become a state, they like being a territory) or, let's see, what other unhappy colonies does the US have? In fact, US has very few territories, and offers them votes on independence/statehood. They all seem to like it all right.
You should have to justify it so you keep getting it, if you want it. You do want it, right? The money comes from US taxpayers, who have a right to see a benefit.
Situation: after 9/11, the US threatened to bomb Pakistan back to the Stone Age. Pakistan says, no, we'll help you find the terrorists. US says, OK, have some money to help you do it, and if you do it, we'll stay out of your country.
Right now it doesn't look like the US taxpayers are getting much of a bargain. But that's OK, the US is the bad guy, right? I suppose you feel it's OK not to keep bargains with people you don't like. Just don't expect people to keep making bargains with you.
Yada, yada, yada. Yeah, the US manipulates all of their colonies, like Puerto Rico (which voted NOT to become a state, they like being a territory) or, let's see, what other unhappy colonies does the US have? In fact, US has very few territories, and offers them votes on independence/statehood. They all seem to like it all right.
You should have to justify it so you keep getting it, if you want it. You do want it, right? The money comes from US taxpayers, who have a right to see a benefit.
Situation: after 9/11, the US threatened to bomb Pakistan back to the Stone Age. Pakistan says, no, we'll help you find the terrorists. US says, OK, have some money to help you do it, and if you do it, we'll stay out of your country.
Right now it doesn't look like the US taxpayers are getting much of a bargain. But that's OK, the US is the bad guy, right? I suppose you feel it's OK not to keep bargains with people you don't like. Just don't expect people to keep making bargains with you.
No one was asking for the money. Pakistan was THREATENED that's right threatened in the apparent neo-colonial fashion, to comply or else. Sure money was thrown and accepted, but as an ally there is no requirement for accountability,especially Pakistan has cooperated and caused long term, domestic damage by this war on terror.
You sound like a disgruntled Indian who is sorry to see India being cut out of the loop, even when it was one of the first countries to offer unconditional support to the US. Dreams of marching into Pakistan on US tanks eh?
As for the taxpayer issue, please tell me the last time Israel or Egypt were asked to account for their aid? Thanks for looking into it :)
Sure, Pakistan was threatened. Pakistan no longer seems very concerned about the threat.
The money to Egypt was investigated a couple years ago. Many in US are unhappy over money to Egypt. Not sure about the $ to Israel, Israel and US are pretty tight.
However, the situation is simple. The party giving money has control over the money. If you want the money, you agree to their terms. If not, not.
Sure, Pakistan was threatened. Pakistan no longer seems very concerned about the threat.
The money to Egypt was investigated a couple years ago. Many in US are unhappy over money to Egypt. Not sure about the $ to Israel, Israel and US are pretty tight.
However, the situation is simple. The party giving money has control over the money. If you want the money, you agree to their terms. If not, not.
The money to Egypt was hardly investigated. It involved Egyptians self reporting disbursements, I am sure any country can do the same :D
Sure US and Israel are both tight but rules are rules right? I am not aware any 'Israeli waivers.'
Sure the party giving the money has control over the money, however they define the terms at the *outset, *you don't come back and change the terms...that ridiculous. Its like asking Pakistan to justify its US aid spending in the 1980s, when the Russian threat was at the border.
If you put accountability of spending as a part of the aid package from the outset, then sure it is justified.
The sad part here is that these guys are doing the audit for Uncle Shamu for domestic political purposes. In reality this is surrendering national sovereignty for political purposes.
So? US has its own self serving interests in supporting Pakistan, why should we have to justify the spending?
US are no different than the British colonists in their manipulation of Pakistan.
US is not asking for the accountability, its the Pakistani (civilian) govt investigation to trace the money.
US is not asking for the accountability, its the Pakistani (civilian) govt investigation to trace the money.
I know that the accountability is being shown as coming from the civilian government, but we cannot doubt the fact that a copy will be presented to the US Ambassador. Either this stems from 'unofficial' Washington requests or political motivations of the civilian government. Either way, it is an attack on national sovereignty of Pakistan.