But is it because of the reason to follow Islam ? is it because of the reason that they want to obey the teachings of Muhammad PBUH? if so, then yes my logic is wrong.
NO its not because of that. Its because they like the taste of halal meat. So you are right
For everyone:
Follow these rules:
1- When in doubt, leave it aside.
2- Anything is allowed if there is risk of dying of hunger.
3- Remember, Halal does not mean Zabiha. **
Halal** is chicken, goat, beef, camel meat, lamb, fish, birds, etc. (not dog, pig, lion, alcohol etc).
Zabiha refers, how a halal animal was slaughtered, except fish off course.
*Hope this issue of eating Halal, zabiha, kosher, ahmadi food, Shea food, islamic food, unislamic food ends here. *
absolutely right. Halal doesnt mean zabiha.. Halal and zabiha are two different things. Halal is watever is allowed for a Muslim to eat.. so you are free to eat with anyone as long as the meat you are eating is halal.
lets try another one lol..
if you or anyone named Isa or Moosa, it doesnt automatically make you christian or jew. You keep this name because they were prophet's name.. same is the case with Mirza Ghulam Ahmad AS. Name itself means servent of Ahmad. How can the follower of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad AS be called the follower of Ghulam Ahmad AS , when he Himself was a servent of Ahmad (Muhammad PBUH)? Ahmadis are the servent of the servent of Ahmad (Muhammad PBUH). Name Ahmad applies to Muhammad PBUH as well as Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad AS. Taking the meaning of Ahmadi would simply mean follower of Hazrat Mustafa SAW as well as Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad AS.
Calling them Mirzai would hurt them because it is a misleading term, and would imlpy only if ahmadis were followers of Ghulam Ahmad AS and not followers of Hazrat Muhammad PBUH.
Calling them Qadiyanis doesnt make sense at all, since the term Qadiyani is only implied to those who're from that city, just as if resident of Lahore would be called Lahorie, or Multan for Multani etc.. Thus Qadiyani would refer to where they are from rather than who they are. There are many qadiyanis who are not ahmadis, just like there are many Lahories who are not sunnis..
conclusion .. best to refer to them as Ahmadis.
PS: this topic is not about what they should be called. My response to this topic has been given above. No more reply from my side now, which will start getting off topic.
PS: also, his death has been talked about here.. please use the search option.
Utter nonsense.
same is the case with Mirza Ghulam Ahmad AS. Name itself means servent of Ahmad. How can the follower of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad AS be called the follower of Ghulam Ahmad AS , when he Himself was a servent of Ahmad (Muhammad PBUH)? Ahmadis are the servent of the servent of Ahmad (Muhammad PBUH).
-How can he be a servant when the servant claims to be a NABI (Nauzubillah) and a prophet himself? Thus violating the very fundamental concept of Islam.
-He calimed to be a Massiah... second coming of christ...and we all know how wrong he was don't we? Eh!
-Then he claimed tobe the Mahdi... another Prohpet. I wonder why he didn't calimed to be Prince Charles? He might as well have!
-Rejecting the idea of armed Jihad. Fancied that as well.
-And an over two dozen new regulations, in the religion called Islam...
Conclusion: Refrain yourself from talking senseless material, when the guy truely has his own beliefs and has moulded another to such an extent its quite difficult to relate...So stop referring HIS teachings as the teachings of The ProPhet Muhammad (P.B.U.H).
Thank You.
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^OOOH....I sence smoke....
Utter nonsense.
-How can he be a servant when the servant claims to be a NABI (Nauzubillah) and a prophet himself? Thus violating the very fundamental concept of Islam
Do you seriously know what you're talking about?? and what is that 'very fundamental cocept of islam' ?? a servent of Muhammad PBUH learnt everything from His master, Muhammad PBUH..
-He calimed to be a Massiah... second coming of christ...and we all know how wrong he was don't we? Eh!
maybe not me, but you sure you know how wrong He was?
-Then he claimed tobe the Mahdi... another Prohpet. I wonder why he didn't calimed to be Prince Charles? He might as well have!
sorry buddy, Muhammad PBUH himself referred the reformer of the latter days as the nabi.. ( referred Isa AS of latter days as nabi ).. so there we go.
-Rejecting the idea of armed Jihad. Fancied that as well.
armed jihaad in the name of religion is forbidden. This is what He AS also said.
-And an over two dozen new regulations, in the religion called Islam...
oh! two dozen you said? I guarantee you, you will not be able to name even one new regulation that He AS brought. Everything He AS said was what Prophet Muhammad SAW said.. His teachings are the teachings of Muhammad PBUH.
Conclusion: Refrain yourself from talking senseless material, when the guy truely has his own beliefs and has moulded another to such an extent its quite difficult to relate...So stop referring HIS teachings as the teachings of The ProPhet Muhammad (P.B.U.H).
Thank You.
who had his own beliefs? I wonder why then Ahmadis despite believing him as the Mahdi follow what the true teachings of Islam ?
PS: This thread needs to be closed. Tom dick and harry will come to this thread and start talking about Jamaat e ahmadiyya which they've been fed by their forefathers. This thread topic was if sunnis can eat with ahmadis, and I guess the replies have been given. No need in my opinion to leave this thread open for more discussion.
absolutely right. Halal doesnt mean zabiha.. Halal and zabiha are two different things. Halal is watever is allowed for a Muslim to eat.. so you are free to eat with anyone as long as the meat you are eating is halal.
Isn't that what I said in post #9 ?
Can I ;) ?
lol
RC
oh! two dozen you said? I guarantee you, you will not be able to name even one new regulation that He AS brought. Everything He AS said was what Prophet Muhammad SAW said.. His teachings are the teachings of Muhammad PBUH.
Should I help him name a lot more than just one ?
Nah... I am too tired of repeating the same stuff over and over again plus I made peace with Popat and de..Toxed and promised not to get too emotional on this issue so you are saved ........;)
PS: This thread needs to be closed. Tom dick and harry will come to this thread and start talking about Jamaat e ahmadiyya which they've been fed by their forefathers. This thread topic was if sunnis can eat with ahmadis, and I guess the replies have been given. No need in my opinion to leave this thread open for more discussion.
I agree..
RC
For everyone:
Follow these rules:
1- When in doubt, leave it aside.
2- Anything is allowed if there is risk of dying of hunger.
3- Remember, Halal does not mean Zabiha.
Halal is chicken, goat, beef, camel meat, lamb, fish, birds, etc. (not dog, pig, lion, alcohol etc).
Zabiha refers, how a halal animal was slaughtered, except fish off course.
Hope this issue of eating Halal, zabiha, kosher, ahmadi food, Shea food, islamic food, unislamic food ends here.
Peace diwana bro
The way I understood it was that animals are designated as halal or haram for consumption, but some animal meat is conditionally halal only when it is zabihah (i.e. bled and slaughtered with knife) and blessed with the Name of Allah (SWT), and other animals cannot ever be halal even if they are zabihah, such as pig.
As for eating with Ahmadi's ... yes ... what sort of question is that anyway? If they eat halal, which they do, then eat with them, why not? But only if you are invited.
Isn't that what I said in post #9 ?
Can I ;) ?
lol
RC
Assalam o alikum RealityCheck :)
my response here was to agree with you :)
PS: also, please do tell the new regulations that you know of.. that He AS brought which are completely not the teachings of Islam at all. I dont want you keep everything in you man.. so do share.. please... I'm curious now.
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haahhaah...ok ...just close it...if someone wants to eat then fell free to eat...
Quran Majeed says: Laa ikraaha fidd'een...There is no compulsion in matter of faith.
If you feel that they are not good people and you will have bad influence (satanic influence) then feel free not to eat.
At end of the day eat Halal...just ask them..is the food halal?...which shop you bought it from?...call that shop and ask them if the food is halal or not? if they say yes then ask him if the butcher is Ahmadi if he says yes then ask him did he said takbeer before slaughtering the animal and if he says yes then just eat the food...say thanks and go home...
In above scenario if you listen no somewhere then just use your common sence
end of discussion.
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So I guess the question now is how do mirzai's slaughter their animals?
Ahmadis cut the tail of the animal first.. :halo: :pcg:
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hahaha in that case you cant eat Ahmadi meat :p
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Baat halal ya haram kay khanay ki nahin hay balkah kissi ahmedi kay saath khany ki ho rahi hay.
to jahan tak mera khayal hay kah kisssi bhi ahl e kitab (God Book) kay saath aap log kha saktay hain, laikin jo ahle e kitab nahin hay uss kay saath khana jaiz nahin hay.
so to kya ahemdi ahl-kitab hain ???????????????
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Rana tipu u don't understand English issit?
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for those asking this silly question, go to the christians and eat pig with them. That is halal for you. You don't have tongue of a human being. It belongs to a pig. If it was of a human, this questions would be senseless and this Thread.
all day they have nothing to do. to pass time they come here with the haram food and stories fed into their brain by their forefathers and tell us what jamaat e ahmadiyya is. Same like the jews who wanted to put Isa (as) on the cross at any price. Telling the people lies about Isa (as) who just came down as a servant of Allah. Then he got betrayed by one of his disciple for 30 silver coins. lol. Am I happy it didn't happen with Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, even though they tried everything.
How the people fall
it's a very old dance
with a merry old sound
this is hilarious