Ahmadinejad is an idiot

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I don't think he's being provocative, he's simply being truthful. Besides, giving in to US's every request hasn't brought any good to the muslim world either.

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what world do u live in?......although a low intensity one at times but Iran and the US have been at war for the last 3 decades since the Islamic revoloution in Iran..........US invaded Iran in 1980 (read: Operation Eagle Claw) and also had Saddam invade them and fight the longest war ever fought b/w1980-1988.......

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From the document:
“That some segments within the U.S. government orchestrated the attack to
reverse the declining American economy and its grips on the Middle East in order
also to save the Zionist regime.
The majority of the American people as well as other nations and politicians agree
with this view.”

Brilliant indeed. Majority of American people do indeed agree with this “theory” … in a utopian parallel universe that Ahmadenijad and his fans live in. Outstanding speech. Popular media has indeed distorted what he said…

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^ You must read the full document or at least full passage where he talked about 9/11. Here is what he said about 9/11:

[quote]
It was said that some three thousands people were killed on the II September for which we are all very saddened. Yet, up until now, in Afghanistan and Iraq hundreds of thousands of people have been killed, millions wounded and displaced and the conflict is still going on and expanding.

In identifying those responsible for the attack, there were three viewpoints.

1- That a very powerful and complex terrorist group, able to successfully cross all layers of the American intelligence and security, carried out the attack.
This is the main viewpoint advocated by American statesmen.

2- That some segments within the U.S. government orchestrated the attack to reverse the declining American economy and its grips on the Middle East in order also to save the Zionist regime.
The majority of the American people as well as other nations and politicians agree with this view.

3- It was carried out by a terrorist group but the American government supported and took advantage of the situation. Apparently, this viewpoint has fewer proponents. The main evidence linking the incident was a few passports found in the huge volume of rubble and a video of an individual whose place of domicile was unknown
but it was announced that he had been involved in oil deals with some American officials. It was also covered up and said that due to the explosion and fire no trace of the suicide attackers was found.

There remain, however, afew questions to be answered:

1- Would it not have been sensible that first a thorough investigation should have been conducted by independent groups to conclusively identify the elements involved in the attack and then map out a rational plan to take measures against them?
2- Assuming the viewpoint of the American government, is it rational to launch a classic war through widespread deployment of troops that led to the death of hundreds of thousands of people to counter a terrorist group?
3- Was it not possible to act the way Iran countered the Riggi terrorist group who killed and wounded 400 innocent people in Iran. In the Iranian operation no innocent person was hurt.

It is proposed that the United Nations set up an independent fact-finding group for the event of the September 9/11 so that in the future expressing views about it is not forbidden.
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I see nothing wrong in what he said and yet many still think ill of him… let me be absolutely clear he is by far the outstanding Muslim statesman of his time and as a Muslim for better or worse i shall stand by him so long as he continues to voice the Muslim peoples feelings across the world.

To do things the way he does takes a lot of guts and for that i Salute this great man. :salute:

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^the world has every right to ask for investigation into this matter because its used as an excuse to invade 2 different countries…and bomb Pakistani villages…millions have been affected by all this blood thats being shed on the name of 9/11…yet there has been no independent or even serious US govt conducted research into what caused and who caused 9/11?..Bush himself appointed a sham commission…and then told the commission himself to “limit their probe”!!!..FBI director Louis Freeh criticized the 9/11 Commission for ignoring key facts and evidence…Japanese parliament questioned 9/11…(watch http://www.presstv.ir/detail/142025.html)
and even if US official version is believed like Ahmadinejad said…then why doesnt US invade their buddy-biatch Saudi Arabia where 19 of the 21 hijackers came from?..what does Iraq, Afghanistan or Pakistan have to do with 9/11?..why are our people killed and our lives and peace destroyed?..

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Preciscely why people think it was a sham... now how many people think that? Hundreds... Thousands?... I think theres millions are they all terrorists? Offcourse not...!

And yeah if America was so sincere in it's war on terror it would bomb out the state of Saudia first...

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^and to some he becomes an "idiot" because he called for an independent inquiry into the event that is used as an excuse to bomb ppl day and night and theft of their wealth and resources for the last 9 years............man, thats rich!
many of us suffer from what i call CMS..........that is Corporate Media Syndrome...........where anything told to us by RUpert Murdoch and likes is believed............and our ability to think clearly on our own is vanishing....

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Ahmedinajad is no Idiot, though i do say most of the leaders running Pakistan are and America had Bush as an idiot who was much worse.

Compared to that sort Ahmedinajaad is anyhting but an Idiot and to me and millions of others like me around the world he is a Hero.

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whats bad in it? i like this guy, at least he has guts. thumbsup for Ahmadinejad

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Interesting read about the Iran-US relationship.

**Why the US doesn’t talk to Iran ** from the Asia Times

http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LI30Ak02.html

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Well so much for the great land of liberty and freedom, I mean c'ommon Americans your supposed to be good guys so for heavens sake get some good leaders... same applies to Pakistan's people too.

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Looking at the text of the speech , he comes out as a genius rather than an idiot. IMO.

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Precisley that man is to Iranian diplomacy what Machiavelli is to statecraft. :salute:

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All the Ahmedinejad haters you got to admit he has guts. Yes, some things he says are very controversial. At least he is taking a stand.

And when you see all of the diplomats running like little immature babies at the UN assembly. Grow Up! This is an international forum have some respect when someone is speaking no matter how distasteful you may think a persons views may be. Its an International forum not the Tel Aviv, White House, or Westminster! where can do what they want.

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:k:

Couldnt have put it better myself :smokin2:

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Come you need to be realistic. These guys walked out. They did not throw paper weights and started a slanging match.

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:aq:

Were you among them? :hmmm:

Mind not yaar just joking :hehe:

Okay seriously it’s still hardly polite to walk out, it’s a small slight that is not worth the price believe me… it’s just one more sign hat radicals will pick up on and if a life was lost becuase someone could not sit and listen to anothe person talking then shame it is indeed.

Besides if diplomacy is to be made such a mockery of then who can blame the terrorists for surely a transgression is a transgression be it great or small… and with that in mind the first transgretion is as bad as the last. My friend we all need to be realistic… talking things is better than fighting them out.

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The guy's got cojones.

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Really now… :cobra:

What was it our friend said about growing up?