Fine I agree that some customers are finicky but there is nothing wrong with showing a little gratitude.
I absolutely agree with you.
However, in this particular situation, the girls don't have a right to tell the guy how much gratitude he needs to show. The girls need to give the tip they feel is appropriate based on their own bills and the service they received. And the guy should be left alone to decide how much gratitude he will leave based on his personal bill, and the service he received.
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I suppose but then they might feel what he left was enough collectively and it might reflect on their tipping manners . I always have hubs leave an extra tip if it isn't sufficient when having dinner where the bill is split.
^ Oh wow....these are co-workers?! I'm also shocked that the bills weren't separate to begin with. My team from work goes out to lunch at least once a week (there's 7 of us).....and every single time, we always ask for separate checks (at least in my city, this is a VERY common occurance during outings among co-workers). It saves time/energy from trying to figure out who owes how much...and totally eliminates the chance of something like this happening.
^ Oh wow....these are co-workers?! I'm also shocked that the bills weren't separate to begin with. My team from work goes out to lunch at least once a week (there's 7 of us).....and every single time, we always ask for separate checks (at least in my city, this is a VERY common occurance during outings among co-workers). It saves time/energy from trying to figure out who owes how much...and totally eliminates the chance of something like this happening.
This was the first time I went out with the coworkers. And might I mention...these 3 are all still in college and 21, if that matters..lol...and like I said..Iv'e never had to ask for a separate check when I ate with friends.
Anyways later he texted me about how the night went badly and how they were giving him attitude, and I told him, next time get separate checks and bla bla bla....he said "as if there will be a next time." lol.
I suppose but then they might feel what he left was enough collectively and it might reflect on their tipping manners .** I always have hubs leave an extra tip if it isn't sufficient when having dinner where the bill is split**.
LOL.....I do the exact same thing too! :) We have a friend who is known to be a bit on the cheap side among our group. Whenever we go out with him, I always leave (or get my fiance to leave) a few extra dollars b/c I know he isn't going to leave enough.
But since we're dealing with our husbands/fiance's....it's a totally different situation. In your situation, he's officially your family. :) With my guy, I know we see our earning as "our" money (I assume you and hubby see it that way too). But I would NEVER tell a co-worker or even a friend how much tip to leave. I have no idea what made these girls think they have the right to tell a co-worker how he should spend his money. I'd in furious if one of my co-workers tried telling me how I should spend mine.
This was the first time I went out with the coworkers. And might I mention...these 3 are all still in college and 21, if that matters..lol...and like I said..Iv'e never had to ask for a separate check when I ate with friends.
Anyways later he texted me about how the night went badly and how they were giving him attitude, and I told him, next time get separate checks and bla bla bla....he said "as if there will be a next time." lol.
Yep....same here. When we're with close friends, we don't really keep track of money like that. If we pay a few extra dollars or they pay a few extra....it's not a huge deal b/c we make-up for it the next time we go out.
No, it doesn't matter if they're in college. If they can't afford to pay for their own meal (tax+tip included), then they should've packed their food from home and not gone out to eat.
Good for the guy! Yea I would NEVER go out again with people like thisl
If you are sharing a meal and splitting the bill then tax n tip are included in my opinion or so Ive been told. It would have been better if they got their own bills. Whenever I went out with friends, we got pur own bills.
Yep....same here. When we're with close friends, we don't really keep track of money like that. If we pay a few extra dollars or they pay a few extra....it's not a huge deal b/c we make-up for it the next time we go out.
No, it doesn't matter if they're in college. If they can't afford to pay for their own meal (tax+tip included), then they should've packed their food from home and not gone out to eat.
Good for the guy! Yea I would NEVER go out again with people like thisl
he said straight up taht he's not paying for their drinks (he's Muslim and doesn't drink, they're not Muslim and do drink)....well I was going home with the girls and whole time they were complaining about him..how he was a jerk and that they'd never date him (the "joke" around the office is that he's trying to get with them, and they openly say "you can never get with us").. they have the weirdest "sense of humor" too..
If you are sharing a meal and splitting the bill then tax n tip are included in my opinion or so Ive been told. It would have been better if they got their own bills. Whenever I went out with friends, we got pur own bills.
NOt sure how it is in other cities but in some restuarants here, gratuitiy is included as part of the bill, so it's an even split (unless it's a persons' birthday)...if gratuity isn't included, sometimes its split and sometimes the other person puts down a few $$...not a big deal I think.
Just out of curiosity, why did they want him to pay? What were their reasons?
You said they're not Desi, and in Western culture it's hardly expected for the guy to pay amongst coworkers. I've always gotten separate bills, with friends or coworkers. Except in cases where the manager picked up the tab, or the team was having a big dinner to celebrate a project being finished.
They said that the guy should always pay, he should be a gentleman, blah blah blah.
he told me that whenever they go for lunch he pays for them, and that in the beginning it was understood that they would pay their own stuff since he wasn't gonna pay for alcohol and that he shouldn't pay triple what he really had to pay....
I hate it when girls assume the guy is responsible for paying - why assume he has deeper pockets than they do and unless he said he was treating everyone - he's not responsible for the bill.
They said that the guy should always pay, he should be a gentleman, blah blah blah.
he told me that whenever they go for lunch he pays for them, and that in the beginning it was understood that they would pay their own stuff since he wasn't gonna pay for alcohol and that he shouldn't pay triple what he really had to pay....
Here's the thing - a guy definitely gets brownie points for paying, it's sweet and thoughtful and he gets credit for being a gentleman.
BUT, a girl who EXPECTS or DEMANDS that a guy who's not her bf/SO/husband or family member to pay just because she thinks she's hot stuff - she's trolling and not like one of our GS trolls, but rather someone who's looking for a sugar daddy and I've got no respect for those types of women.
Here's the thing - a guy definitely gets brownie points for paying, it's sweet and thoughtful and he gets credit for being a gentleman.
BUT, a girl who EXPECTS or DEMANDS that a guy who's not her bf/SO/husband or family member to pay just because she thinks she's hot stuff - she's trolling and not like one of our GS trolls, but rather someone who's looking for a sugar daddy and I've got no respect for those types of women.
Unfortunately a lot of very attractive women tend to be self entitled like that because most men they meet will bend over backwards to try to please them. Ironically, you only gain their respect by not doing catering to their every whim, and calling them out on the BS.
Unfortunately a lot of very attractive women tend to be self entitled like that because most men they meet will bend over backwards to try to please them. Ironically, you only gain their respect by not doing catering to their every whim, and calling them out on the BS.
^Don't get me wrong. Guys have paid for my dinner or coffee - but the difference was the expectation or as you say - the sense of entitlement - I didn't expect it, I appreciated it. And I would reciprocate if given the opportunity.
And quite frankly, if I know someone else is going to pay for me, I never order something expensive - that's tacky.
I don't get what the big deal is. Seafood guy paid for date 1 and 2, I paid for coffee once, and I paid for date 3.
People who split hairs over dollars like this --> cheapoooos, and they naturally select themselves out of the gene pool.
I disagree - it wasn't a date so why should he pay for the $10 drinks the girls ordered and the expensive entree the girls ordered? He didn't invite them so why shouldn't they pay their own way?
I don't order the most expensive stuff if someone else is picking up the tab but jeez I have come across some desis who try order things they would never pay for. I also agree that some girls expect men to pay, Don't but a cute wallet, if you won't use it!!
Well one of the girl openly says “I like older men” and says that she wants a sugar daddy (the same girl who screamed at him “I make more money than you anyway!”
That’s EXACTLY what the situation is. They are very pretty and charming girls, and the guy is naturally attracted to them. but I see the way they talk to him and about him…I don’t know if he’s aware or not…call me naive but it’s the first time I’m actually seeing this kind of behavior in person and I just find it sad…but maybe because I and the ppl I know never behaved like that.
honestly I would NEVER…ever ever ever expect a guy to pay. FYI, the dude’s never paid for me when we go get lunch…should I be offended.
