Agha Khan foundation has come under attack by the MMA people who accuse Agha Khan foundation of being agents of the west and spreading unislamic values. Question that needs to be asked is whether it is AK or MMA which needs to be banned? WHo gave mma the moral superiority to declare widely recognized sect of Muslims as non-Muslims? Yesterday it was Ahmedi’s, today its Ismaili’s, whoes turn is it going to be tomorrow? Thus the question, do you agree with MMA or would it be better if MMA is banned?
http://www.newsline.com.pk/NewsJan2005/editornotejan2005.htm
It was a New Year’s eve like no other. The mullah at a Clifton mosque in Karachi began tilawat over the loudspeaker turned on full blast, around 11 o’clock and continued till the clock struck twelve and a burst of fireworks lit up the sky.
A case of, if you can't join 'em, beat 'em! The minders of our morals were back in business, threatening to attack all who dared to party that night. And predictably, all hotels pulled down their shutters to avoid any untoward incident.
The bearded brigade does not believe in holding charity balls but what's to stop them from doing charity? Being the 'good Samaritans' that they are, they could have fed and clothed the poor sleeping on the footpaths of Karachi on that cold December night.
**But the mullahs, as represented by the MMA, obviously have more 'pressing issues' on their mind. Currently, they are locking horns with the Aga Khan Foundation. Extremely troubled by their increasing presence in the Northern Areas, which they view as their turf, the religious groups are threatening the Foundation with dire consequences and, equally abominable, warning the Aga Khanis of relegating them to the ranks of minorities like they did with the Ahmedis.**
Surely quality schools, as opposed to madrassas that preach sectarianism and hatred, and well-equipped medical units that provide succour to the region's poorest, rather than abysmal outfits that go by the name of dispensaries, should pose no threat to the mullahs. And yet the beards are up in arms: two staffers of the Aga Khan health services were shot dead and their premises ransacked, allegedly by members of a banned religious outfit. Incidentally, this is not the first episode of it kind. Other Aga Khan outfits have been targeted and threatened, the latest being the Aga Khan Education Board that is being unjustly accused of secularising the curriculum.
All this in the times of Musharraf's war against terrorism and 'enlightened moderation.' And not a squeak from the General. Or his men. But then Musharraf's band of Leaguers are no less 'fundo' than the MMA. Why, they supported Qazi Hussain Ahmed in his demand to include the religion column in Pakistani passports, something which even Saudi passports don't require. And earlier when the question of repealing the Hudood Ordinances, as recommended by the government-appointed National Commission on the Status of Women cropped up, Musharraf's government consigned it to cold storage. This, in order to oblige the MMA for its support in the passage of the 17th Amendment that legalised the LFO. How many more compromises and deals will the General make in order to retain his uniform?
I don’t agree with the many of the beliefs of the Ismaili’s, but in no way would I ever want them be to be persecuted or hounded by the state on the say so of these MMA lunatics. Ironically the Agha Khan University Order was actually incorporated into the Constitution by none other than General Zia in 1983, so the Mullahs were obviously not effective enough to persuade him againt the Ismaili’s as they were against Ahmadi’s.
I have heard that President Musharraf’s wife is also an Ismaili?, so if the MMA push too far against them they might get the military dunda stuck right up their backsides.
ismailis are kuffar, only a jahil ignorant would doubt their kufr. NO Alim has ever called them muslim...comon man..either call yourself muslim or just come out openly being a kafir...whats the double talk?
TM…its ppl like u who act like God on earth may it be Muslims, Christians, Jews or others that give bad name to religions. WTH gave u the right to declare Kaffirs/Muslims? Last Time I checked Quran even the Holy Prophet was advised to deliver his message and leave judgement to Allah. According to the rules u applied for Ismailis, then I and many other followers can treat u and your like with the same contempt which u expressed for Ismailis.
Ismailis, Shia’s, Sunni’s they do not need any seal of approval from human beings created equal by Allah. Your point that No Alim has called them Mulsims, well u need to take your big head and small brain out of the gutter and read Islamic history before passing ignorant Fatwas…
you showed your ignorance of islamic jurisprudence by saying that we cant call people kafir and leave the judgement to allah only. when people refused to pay zakah to abu bakar after the death of prophet Muhammad SAW, abu bakar waged war on them and the sahabas called the war “harb ul irtada” meaning the wars of apostacy…so they considered the ppl who refused to pay zakah as kuffar…it is the same arrogant attitude that the quraish of makkah had against the prophet SAW…they said who are you to call us and our religion wrong, when you are a human being like us. they did not like to be told by any human being and thus they rejected the truth when it was bought to them. i can debate all day but it is useless.
(Allâh has knowledge) of (Prophet Muhammad’s) saying: “O my Lord! Verily, these are a people who believe not!” (Az-Zukhruf 43:88)
So turn away from them (O Muhammad SAW), and say: Salâm (peace)! But they will come to know. (Az-Zukhruf 43:89)
Please find reference to clear Quranic ayath regarding difference of opinions and guidance to the Prophet.
Sura: Al Imran
*003.020 * YUSUFALI: So if they dispute with thee, say: “I have submitted My whole self to Allah and so have those who follow me.” And say to the People of the Book and to those who are unlearned: “Do ye (also) submit yourselves?” If they do, they are in right guidance, but if they turn back, Thy duty is to convey the Message; and in Allah’s sight are (all) His servants. PICKTHAL: And if they argue with thee, (O Muhammad), say: I have surrendered my purpose to Allah and (so have) those who follow me. And say unto those who have received the Scripture and those who read not: Have ye (too) surrendered? If they surrender, then truly they are rightly guided, and if they turn away, then it is thy duty only to convey the message (unto them). Allah is Seer of (His) bondmen. SHAKIR: But if they dispute with you, say: I have submitted myself entirely to Allah and (so) every one who follows me; and say to those who have been given the Book and the unlearned people: Do you submit yourselves? So if they submit then indeed they follow the right way; and if they turn back, then upon you is only the delivery of the message and Allah sees the servants.
*006.048 * YUSUFALI:We send the messengers only to give good news and to warn: so those who believe and mend (their lives),- upon them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
PICKTHAL: We send not the messengers save as bearers of good news and warners. Whoso believeth and doeth right, there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve. SHAKIR: And We send not messengers but as announcers of good news and givers of warning, then whoever believes and acts aright, they shall have no fear, nor shall they grieve.
Religious disputes between Christians and Jews:
*002.113 * YUSUFALI:The Jews say: "The Christians have naught (to stand) upon; and the Christians say: “The Jews have naught (To stand) upon.” Yet they (Profess to) study the (same) Book. Like unto their word is what those say who know not; but Allah will judge between them in their quarrel on the Day of Judgment. PICKTHAL: And the Jews say the Christians follow nothing (true), and the Christians say the Jews follow nothing (true); yet both are readers of the Scripture. Even thus speak those who know not. Allah will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection concerning that wherein they differ. SHAKIR: And the Jews say: The Christians do not follow anything (good) and the Christians say: The Jews do not follow anything (good) while they recite the (same) Book. Even thus say those who have no knowledge, like to what they say; so Allah shall judge between them on the day of resurrection in what they differ.
Allah is settling disputes between the Ahle Kithaab…on day of Judgement
Example of Hazrat Abu Bakr is not applicable ehre because the tribes who rebelled did do because they wanted to abandon the Islamic fold and not pay Zakat to the Caliphate. Eatly days of Islam, such acts of sedition wud have been damaging to this new community. Thus, Hazrat Abu Bakr’s actions. Since the Ismailis have never renounced their belief in Allah and his Prophet, same principle cannot be applied
Question that one sud ask is where does this Kuffar fatwa’s end? Yesterday it was
Ahmedis, today its Ismailis, tomorrow Shai’s and then after that…Beware, what u ask for others can happen to you…
Ismailis and Aga Khan have done nothing but good for Islam. They should be given high leadership posts in our country. Same goes for Ahmedis. It's the Sunnis who have done nothing for Islam except defame it every single day.