What gives you the right to put your beliefs above everyone elses? You may think “only Islam is the right religion and all others are false”, but guess what? These non-Muslim countries you want to preach in may feel as strongly that your religion is false and is “spreading darkness”. So when you want to limit the speech of others in a “Muslim” country, be prepared to experience the same discrimination in non-Muslim countries when you feel compelled to spread Islam to every inch of the world.
I don't expect you to ask this question after reading brother Akbarally Meherally's account in one of my previous posts. That is enough to answering all the questions you have raised...
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^ I agree. What is wrong about Aga Khan's edu. curriculum? Its at the top in the nation and *supposedly on the calibre of outside universities.
This is only further evidence of muslims destroying muslims. And lets not get into a debate on whether aga khanis are muslims or not. Aga Khan's educational system puts thru many sunnis as well, for all you war mongers.
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I don't expect you to ask this question after reading brother Akbarally Meherally's account in one of my previous posts. That is enough to answering all the questions you have raised...
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I don't expect you to have me search the archives to find the post that justifies your hypocrisy and sanctimony either.
I don’t say that on my own, Allah says that in Quran. Read it again with your eyes open.
Sure, thats what they will do. Didn’t Muslims confront this in Jihad, during the time of Hazrat Muhammad :saw: and Sahaba-e-Kiram :ra:?
Islam does not force anyone in person to quit his religion and enter Islam. However, Islam does require the whole world to be under the umbrella of Islamic System. Thats why it allows minorities to follow their own religion, as long as they don’t interfere with Islam. At the same time, it does not grant them rights equal to Muslims. During the Jihad that I referred to above, Muslims used to convey the invitation to Islam to the kuffars. If they accepted it fine, otherwise they were challenged to fight. Once Muslims captured the land, the locals were not forced to stop practicing their respective religions. They were allowed to do so under the condition that they paid the tax to Muslim state called ‘Jizya.’
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^ yes yes, whatever. And when have muslims ever been able to make that "umbrella" into reality? Its still in the imagination of armchair-maulvis.
That's great. YOU believe your deen has been told by God that it is the only truth and to spread it throughout the world. But maybe there are other beliefs who think the same thing. Maybe their "Allah" gives them the same mandate. I can read the Quran all day long but if I don't believe it to be the word of God, then it makes no never minds to me. What difference would it make to you to read somoeone else's scripture where their God gave commandments and expressed sole divinity? Wouldn't mean a thing to you either, would it?
No, no other religion has that mandate from God now. Its only Islam that has it. If a Muslim doesn't have belief in it, he is not a Muslim... And no, I am not issuing a Kufar ka Fatwa. Thats the reality.
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That's great. YOU believe your deen has been mandated by God to spread it to the whole world. But maybe there are other beliefs who think the same thing. Maybe their "Allah" gives them the same mandate. I can read the Quran all day long but if I don't believe it to be the world of God, then it makes no never minds to me. What difference would it make to you to read somoeone else's scripture where their God gave commandments? Wouldn't mean a thing to you either, would it?
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No, no other religion has that mandate from God now. Its only Islam that has it. If a Muslim doesn't have belief in it, he is not a Muslim... And no, I am not issuing a Kufar ka Fatwa. Thats the reality.
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The reality is that you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about. First you claim exclusivity on righteousness, then the mandate to spread it by force if necessary, then the audacity to claim no other belief system has the right or privilige of calling it the right religion and all other false. I might have some divine scripture in my back pocket right now that tells me the same thing. Open your eyes, show some tolerance and realize you do not have the answers to everything or exclusive knowledge of righteousness.
I have every clue what I am talking about. I will reply you in detail later.
Enough said for now...
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The reality is that you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about. First you claim exclusivity on righteousness, then the mandate to spread it by force if necessary, then the audacity to claim no other belief system has the right or privilige of calling it the right religion and all other false. I might have some divine scripture in my back pocket right now that tells me the same thing. Open your eyes, show some tolerance and realize you do not have the answers to everything or exclusive knowledge of righteousness.
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there are enough catholic schools operating in the country and some are very high calbre, st pats and st josephs in karachi for example, they have been operating without controversy for decades (as it should be) so what did AKU do to create an itch for jamiaat.
It probably is due to the fact that AKU or IBA do not let ghunda badmaash moronic groups lije jamiaat on their campuses because they have seen what these psychos have done to unis like Dow, NED or KU etc.
pimp slap em all back to a madrissah
P.S, for all their bakwaas about westernization bad and all, look at the pic half the crew is in blue jeans and trainers :)
Yeeaah, since that is the last refuge for a child, whose poor father has no money to feed him (thats the way the system works right now). Too bad he cannot go to the very high calbre st pats and st jospehs.
May be why should ask the Agha Khanees to start managing the Madrassahs as well. Right Pir Sahib?
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pimp slap em all back to a madrissah
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Yeeaah, since that is the last refuge for a child, whose poor father has no money to feed him (thats the way the system works right now). Too bad he cannot go to the very high calbre st pats and st jospehs.
May be why should ask the Agha Khanees to start managing the Madrassahs as well. Right Pir Sahib?
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your typical islaami jamiyaat e talba goon is not a madrissa-only educated kid, last i checked jamiayat did not operate in madrissas but in colleges and universities.
So there goes the theory of child whose poor father has no money to feed him and too bad that he could not go to st. pats and st. josephs
so yeah they went to madrissa, but not because their father could not afford to feed them, but because while they were going to regular schools, the parents decided to give them some religious knowledge and sent them to some madrissa being taught by johnny come lately banner waving mouth foaming book banging screaming shouting narrow minded jahil kath mullah.
jamiat has murdered college students, jamiaat has harassed students on campuses, caused destruction, threatened faculty, disrupted classes.
phir aatay hain baat karnay, lucchay lufangay, sarrak chaap, foot-pathiay, 2 tikkay kay jammatay kuttay..
wonder why they never protest against the idiotic systems in some madrissas. the types that have given good ones a bad name. That curriculum does not seem to bother them.
I dont understand why these jaahils can't see that what they're doing IS jaahil.
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I mean, can't they see that they look like morons? I mean, when I act like a moron, I'm usually aware of it at some level of consciousness...you'd think they'd be too.
But, well...where there is one leader there are a million blind followers.
Didn’t you post elsewhere
