Afzal Guru hanged in Delhi's Tihar jail

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well i am sure that the Indian civil society will raise the voice....amnesty india already talking about it openly...so kudos to them....hopefully the mainstream press will also bring this to masses as well.....

honestly i careless about the kashmir movement and what not in context of this issue.....i mean i have a viewpoint on kashmir movement but that is a political discussion.... on afzal's execution my issues are purely from humanistic standpoint... i am just deeply disturbed the way the execution took place, the way the dead body was taken care of, the way the family was kept unaware of it.... the way the whole trial took place......civilized societies don't carry their business like this

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Only God knows the truth, but Afzal Guru’s defence sounds credible

‘The police made me a scapegoat to mask their failure to trace the mastermind’ - Rediff.com News]('The police made me a scapegoat to mask their failure to trace the mastermind' - Rediff.com News)

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Phoenix has made some very thoughtful posts, which does not surprise me. He has set a high standard for fairness few here can match. Your post on the other hand is confusing.

Could you please clarify what you mean by " accept his EFFORTS"?

What specific efforts are you referring to, sir?

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All i know is we shouldnt be spend a single rupee and time on these pigs. Put them in fast track courts and hang them naked in public. Killers who didnt show mercy in killing innocent civilians dont deserve any mercy. We need to make examples of these guys.

If it was Saudi or Israel , this guy would have lost his head the same day he was arrested. No need to be civilized with these people. I am still waiting for the day they find and kill the people involved in jaipur blasts.

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Concur Ali. I have couple of Kashmiri friends are saying the same thing that..he was innocent. Innahlliahi Wanna illahi rajion.

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This guy was allowed to live much longer than most others sentenced to death for their crimes - purely because of political accommodation. Shame of the Congress party for delaying it so long.

Traitors & terrorists such as this guy do not deserve such considerations. It is all well and good for his wife to ask for rights but she lost them the day she said yes to this guy.

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fine....kill those pigs! you are entitled to your opinion but the problem is that it is Indian govt that has taken or claim to take the principled decision that everyone will be tried in the court .... and for most part indian system was moving at its usual pace with no major drawback but then indian govt started to take some strange decisions** that cannot and should not be supported.**...maybe typical babu type bureaucrats enforced these decisions .... coz they gave india a bad name for no reason...

to be honest, i was overall satisfied with Ajmal Qasab's trial except same sort of steps were taken in the end in his case as well...executing sentence suddenly in secrecy and whatnot....

in afzal case it is even worst, coz his family was not informed abt execution and they never met him before hanging....and then he was thrown in a grave in jail even though his family wants him back...and i think his family is an indian citizen

i have already said that i don't want to make this discussion a political one....i have a viewpoint on kashmir movement but that is a political discussion.... on afzal's execution my issues are purely from humanistic standpoint... i am just deeply disturbed the way the execution took place, the way the dead body was taken care of, the way the family was kept unaware of it.... the way the whole trial took place.

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WRONG..every human being has basic rights no matter how horrendous he is... and we as a society ought to deliver those rights.. especially related to death and execution issues...

that is the difference between a civilized society and a terrorist organization....your statement that his wife lost those rights when she married him is really disturbing, to be honest

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I don't know the details of this case. Have not followed situation back home closely for over 2.5 decades. But I agree with Phoenix in principle. Again this is not a comment on if he was guilty or not. But IF due process was not followed that is not good.

And yes his wife should have been given possession of his body.

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i don't think the death penalty should have been awarded in this case but the fact is that india uses the death penalty extremely rarely...once in a blue moon. as long as china executes 5,000 people per year and saudi arabia beheads teenage maids, india will never enter the radar of the international community with a one-off execution like this. i'm not sure if the death penalty itself is what you are upset about or just the unannounced execution/prison burial but i think both are wrong in a civilized progressive nation.


this is not true. even those protesting now do not consider him an "innocent" man. the debate is not about whether he was involved in the parliament attack...the question is about the nature of his involvement and therefore the appropriateness of a death sentence. was he just a small-time facilitator? logistics man? mastermind?

the argument being made is that there was not enough evidence to convict him of any crime that deserves the death penalty. i happen to agree with this. however it has been difficult for him to portray the trial as unfair given that SAR geelani and afsan guru were acquitted and released after the supreme court ruled that there was not enough evidence for conviction.

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“In its August 4, 2005, judgement the Supreme Court clearly says that there was no evidence that Mohammed Afzal belonged to any terrorist group or organisation.”

‘And His Life Should Become Extinct’ | Arundhati Roy](http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?232979)

Acquitting SAR and Afshan does not mean he was not an innocent man.

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looks like th holier than thou brigade is out in strength with the 'all saids' and the 'howevers' and the 'right of humans' and the 'milk of kindness'. Terrorists will be shot or hanged. Deal with it. That is due process to rid them of their miserable lives.

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ok fine ... kill them right there ...I am ok with that... like each and every accomplice of ajmal qasab was killed right there and then....

did anyone say why indains killed them? did anyone raise issue of human rights? of course not..... do u remember that or do you have selective memory?

and logical question is why didn't your police or army kill ajmal kasab right there in middle of the fight? why not? even when they captured him alive, they could have killed him ..... game finished.... why didn't they do it? do you have an answer?

and if they decided not to kill him and try him in Court .... well then onus is on indian sarkar to play by rules...same applies to afzal guru case....simple as that...

so dont ply games here...and try to portray as if those who are crying for human rights are actually supporting terrorists.

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I actually support death penalty but not beheading....i don see death penalty uncivilized.

and yes u r right...I am upset about the unannounced execution/family not informed/prison burial/unfair trial..that is all

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A perfect day for democracy - The Hindu: Mobile Edition

A perfect day for democracy - The Hindu: Mobile Edition

Wasn’t it? Yesterday I mean. Spring announced itself in Delhi. The sun was out, and the Law took its Course. Just before breakfast, Afzal Guru, prime accused in the 2001 Parliament Attack was secretly hanged, and his body was interred in Tihar Jail. Was he buried next to Maqbool Butt? (The other Kashmiri who was hanged in Tihar in 1984. Kashmiris will mark that anniversary tomorrow.) Afzal’s wife and son were not informed. “The Authorities intimated the family through Speed Post and Registered Post,” the Home Secretary told the press, “the Director General of J&K Police has been told to check whether they got it or not.” No big deal, they’re only the family of a Kashmiri terrorist.

In a moment of rare unity the Nation, or at least its major political parties, the Congress, the BJP and the CPM came together as one (barring a few squabbles about ‘delay’ and ‘timing’) to celebrate the triumph of the Rule of Law. The Conscience of the Nation, which broadcasts live from TV studios these days, unleashed its collective intellect on us — the usual cocktail of papal passion and a delicate grip on facts. Even though the man was dead and gone, like cowards that hunt in packs, they seemed to need each other to keep their courage up. Perhaps because deep inside themselves they know that they all colluded to do something terribly wrong.

What are the facts?

On the 13th of December 2001 five armed men drove through the gates of the Parliament House in a white Ambassador fitted out with an Improvised Explosive Device. When they were challenged they jumped out of the car and opened fire. They killed eight security personnel and a gardener. In the gun battle that followed, all five attackers were killed. In one of the many versions of confessions he made in police custody, Afzal Guru identified the men as Mohammed, Rana, Raja, Hamza and Haider. That’s all we know about them even today. L.K. Advani, the then Home Minister, said they ‘looked like Pakistanis.’ (He should know what Pakistanis look like right? Being a Sindhi himself.) Based only on Afzal’s confession (which the Supreme Court subsequently set aside citing ‘lapses’ and ‘violations of procedural safeguards’) the Government of India recalled its Ambassador from Pakistan and mobilised half a million soldiers to the Pakistan border. There was talk of nuclear war. Foreign embassies issued Travel Advisories and evacuated their staff from Delhi. The standoff lasted for months and cost India thousands of crores.

On the 14th of December 2001 the Delhi Police Special Cell claimed it had cracked the case. On the 15th of December it arrested the ‘master mind’ Professor S.A.R Geelani in Delhi and Showkat Guru and Afzal Guru in a fruit market in Srinagar. Subsequently they arrested Afsan Guru, Showkat’s wife. The media enthusiastically disseminated the Special Cell’s version. These were some of the headlines: ‘DU Lecturer was Terror Plan Hub’, ‘Varsity Don Guided Fidayeen’, ‘Don Lectured on Terror in Free Time.’ Zee TV broadcast a ‘docudrama’ called December 13th , a recreation that claimed to be the ‘Truth Based on the Police Charge Sheet.’ (If the police version is the truth, then why have courts?) Then Prime Minister Vajpayee and L.K. Advani publicly appreciated the film. The Supreme Court refused to stay the screening saying that the media would not influence judges. The film was broadcast only a few days before the fast track court sentenced Afzal, Showkat and Geelani to death. Subsequently the High Court acquitted the ‘mastermind’, Professor S.A.R Geelani, and Afsan Guru. The Supreme Court upheld the acquittal. But in its 5th August 2005 judgment it gave Mohammed Afzal three life sentences and a double death sentence.

Contrary to the lies that have been put about by some senior journalists who would have known better, Afzal Guru was not one of “the terrorists who stormed Parliament House on December 13th 2001” nor was he among those who “opened fire on security personnel, apparently killing three of the six who died.” (That was the BJP Rajya Sabha MP, Chandan Mitra, in The Pioneer, October 7th 2006). Even the police charge sheet does not accuse him of that. The Supreme Court judgment says the evidence is circumstantial: “As is the case with most conspiracies, there is and could be no direct evidence amounting to criminal conspiracy.” But then it goes on to say: “The incident, which resulted in heavy casualties had shaken the entire nation, and the collective conscience of society will only be satisfied if capital punishment is awarded to the offender.”

Who crafted our collective conscience on the Parliament Attack case? Could it have been the facts we gleaned from the papers? The films we saw on TV?

There are those who will argue that the very fact that the courts acquitted S.A.R Geelani and convicted Afzal proves that the trial was free and fair. Was it?

The trial in the fast-track court began in May 2002. The world was still convulsed by post 9/11 frenzy. The US government was gloating prematurely over its ‘victory’ in Afghanistan. The Gujarat pogrom was ongoing. And in the Parliament Attack case, the Law was indeed taking its own course. At the most crucial stage of a criminal case, when evidence is presented, when witnesses are cross-examined, when the foundations of the argument are laid — in the High Court and the Supreme Court you can only argue points of law, you cannot introduce new evidence — Guru, locked in a high security solitary cell, had no lawyer. The court-appointed junior lawyer did not visit his client even once in jail, he did not summon any witnesses in Afzal’s defence and did not cross examine the prosecution witnesses. The judge expressed his inability to do anything about the situation.

Even still, from the word go, the case fell apart. A few examples out of many:

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How did the police get to Afzal? They said that S.A.R Geelani led them to him. But the court records show that the message to arrest Afzal went out before they picked up Geelani. The High Court called this a ‘material contradiction’ but left it at that.**

The two most incriminating pieces of evidence against Afzal were a cellphone and a laptop confiscated at the time of arrest. The Arrest Memos were signed by Bismillah, Geelani’s brother, in Delhi. The Seizure Memos were signed by two men of the J&K Police, one of them an old tormentor from Afzal’s past as a surrendered ‘militant’.** The computer and cellphone were not sealed, as evidence is required to be. During the trial it emerged that the hard disc of the laptop had been accessed after the arrest. It only contained the fake home ministry passes and the fake identity cards that the terrorists used to access Parliament. And a Zee TV video clip of Parliament House. So according to the police, Afzal had deleted all the information except the most incriminating bits, and he was speeding off to hand it over to Ghazi Baba, who the charge sheet described as the Chief of Operations.**

A witness for the prosecution, Kamal Kishore, identified Afzal and told the court he had sold him the crucial SIM card that connected all the accused in the case to each other on the 4th of December 2001. But the prosecution’s own call records showed that the SIM was actually operational from November 6th 2001.

It goes on and on, this pile up of lies and fabricated evidence. The courts note them, but for their pains the police get no more than a gentle rap on their knuckles. Nothing more.

Then there’s the back story. Like most surrendered militants Afzal was easy meat in Kashmir — a victim of torture, blackmail, extortion. In the larger scheme of things he was a nobody. Anyone who was really interested in solving the mystery of the Parliament Attack would have followed the dense trail of evidence that was on offer. No one did, thereby ensuring that the real authors of conspiracy will remain unidentified and uninvestigated.

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But now that Afzal Guru has been hanged, I hope our collective conscience has been satisfied. Or is our cup of blood still only half full?**

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Not a good example of Indian justice system and for its PR around the world.

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The Hindu : States / Other States : Afzal Guru hanging: 1 killed, curfew continues in Kashmir

Amid continued curfew and shutdown over Afzal Guru’s execution, clashes broke out at several places in Kashmir on Sunday killing at least one protester and injuring 10 others.

Informed sources said that on the second day of the curfew and the Hurriyat-sponsored shutdown, small groups of demonstrators violated the prohibitory orders and clashed with police and paramilitary forces at about a dozen places in the Valley.

Both factions of the separatist amalgam Hurriyat Conference have called for four days of mourning and shutdown.

A crowd of over a hundred demonstrators attacked a convoy of the Central Reserve Police Force at Watirgam in the Baramulla-Sopore area of north Kashmir. An assistant commandant was injured and three vehicles were damaged. Inspector General of Police, Kashmir, S.M. Sahai told The Hindu that five demonstrators were injured when the CRPF opened fire. Two critically injured persons were rushed to hospital in Srinagar.

Late on Sunday, Superintendent of Police, Hazratbal, Abdul Qayoom refuted ‘rumours’ that one of the injured died. “One Obaidullah sustained gunshots in the abdomen and another, Sajjad Zahoor, got hit in the head. Both have undergone surgery and are battling for life at the Sher-e-Kashmir Institute of Medical Sciences Soura,” Mr. Qayoom said.

The sources said Deputy Commissioner of Baramulla, Ghulam Ahmad Khwaja, had a narrow escape when a 100-strong mob attacked his convoy at Palhalan on the Srinagar-Baramulla road in the evening. At least three persons were injured in retaliatory action by the police.

IGP Kashmir said a group of violent demonstrators clashed with police and paramilitary forces near Sumbal, in Bandipore district of north Kashmir. A boat carrying the fleeing demonstrators capsized while crossing the river Jhelum between Botwena and Wongipora, killing one Tariq Ahmed Bhat. His body was handed over to the family. Residents, however, claimed that the civilians had jumped into the river when the police chased them.

The sources said Guru’s residential area of Jageer in Sopore remained the worst hit as over 3,000 people of half-a-dozen villages gathered and staged a protest. Intermittent clashes occurred, but there were no casualties

Reports said four persons sustained minor injuries in other clashes.

As on Saturday, cable television services, SMS and the Internet remained completely shut on Sunday. Newspaper editors complained that police appeared at their printing presses and offices late on Saturday night and asked the staff not to publish the dailies. Consequently, no newspapers were published in Srinagar on Sunday.

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glad to see indian press raising its voice…

The Hindu : Opinion / Editorial : Vengeance isn
Eight years ago, the Supreme Court condemned Muhammad Afzal Guru to be hanged for his role in the 2001 attack on Parliament House, saying, astonishingly, that “the collective conscience of the society will only be satisfied if the capital punishment is awarded to the offender.” Guru was walked to the gallows Saturday morning at the end of the macabre rite governments enact from time to time to propitiate that most angry of gods, a vengeful public. Through this grim, secret ceremony, however, India has been gravely diminished. The reasons for this are not just the obvious ones — among them, that Guru was a bit-actor in the attack on Parliament, and his trial marred by procedural and substantive errors. These arguments were examined by the highest court in the country and found wanting. There is one argument, though, that wasn’t ever examined — which is precisely why Guru, like scores of other Indians, ended up on death row in the first place. The answer has a great deal to do with expedience, and nothing to do with justice.

The hideous truth is this: judicial executions in India have all the rationality of the roulette table. Last month, Justices P Sathasivam and Fakkir Kalifullah commuted the death penalty given to Mohinder Singh for killing both his daughter and wife – this while out of prison on parole where he was serving time for earlier raping the girl. The judges argued that the death penalty ought only be considered when a perpetrator posed “a menace and threat to the harmonious and peaceful coexistence of the society.” One week later, Justices Sathasivam and Jagdish Khehar upheld death for Sundararajan, who kidnapped and then killed a seven year old boy. The judges noted, among other things the “agony for parents for the loss of their male child, who would have carried further the family lineage.” Besides the obvious imprint of gender values on judicial reasoning, it is the arbitrariness of outcome in cases that are similar which tells us something is seriously wrong. In a signal article published recently in this newspaper. V. Venkatesan noted how the Supreme Court has itself admitted that many of those on death row are there because of“erroneous legal precedents set by itself.” (December 10, 2012) Yet, both the judiciary and the government have been reluctant to announce a moratorium on executions until a thoroughgoing review is carried out. This ought not to surprise us: in case after case, the course of criminal justice has been shaped by public anger and special-interest lobbying. Indians must remember the foundational principle of our Republic, the guardian of all our rights and freedoms, isn’t popular sentiment: it is justice, which in turn is based on the consistent application of principles. For one overriding reason, Guru’s hanging ought to concern even those unmoved by his particular case, or the growing ethics-based global consensus against the death penalty. There is no principle underpinning the death penalty in India today except vengeance. And vengeance is no principle at all.

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^^

While I agree with your anguish in the way the government carried out the execution, there were several factors that led the government to be secretive about the execution...
1) To publicly announce that Guru would be hanged on a particular day would have led to protests and the government wanted the easy way out.
2) It would have been disastrous for the government to handover the body since the grave might become the pilgrimage center for the extremists.

That said, I too have my doubts regarding the trial.

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The Hindu : News / National : In Tihar, officials feel

‘Al vida’, said Afzal Guru to his executioner, who had himself bid him good bye with the same words a few seconds earlier. And then as the executioner pulled a lever, Afzal’s frame hung from the gallows.

“He was dead in a minute, though”, as per the jail norms, the body was kept hanging for a full half hour, said an official who witnessed the hanging. Thereafter Afzal’s body was taken down from the gallows and buried with full religious rites near Jail No. 3, right next to the grave of Kashmiri separatist Maqbool Butt who too was hanged in Tihar.

“But there is a difference between the two. While Butt was a separatist leader, Afzal never spoke about secession of Kashmir from India. In fact, he used to tell us that he had been unnecessarily dragged into this. In fact, he actually believed in ridding India of corruption," the official added. He spoke to The Hindu on condition he not be identified because he was not authorised to speak to the press.

While right-wing activists across the country celebrated Afzal’s execution, in the jail itself there was no celebration. Rather, the staff appeared glum.

“He was a pious soul and was extremely well behaved. Even as he was being taken to the gallows, he greeted the jail staff he knew by their first names. The only thing he requested before the hanging was that ‘mujhay ummeed hai aap mujhay dard nahin karaogay’ (I hope you will not cause me pain). And he was assured by the executioner, who himself was overcome with emotion as he kept looking into his eyes as the black cloth was drawn over them, that it would be a smooth journey. And so it was."

Contrary to some media reports, Afzal was told of his impending execution on the actual morning and not the previous evening.

“The only thing he had in the morning was a cup of tea. But that is because he was not offered any food. Otherwise, he was so normal that he would have had that too.” Initially Afzal was wearing a pheran, or Kashmiri gown. He later took bath and changed into a white kurta-pyjama and offered namaz.

“There have been about 25 executions in Tihar and senior officials [here] have witnessed the last 10, but never have they seen a man so calm and composed on learning the news of his impending death.”

In the last couple of hours of his life, Afzal had the company of some jail officials. And he narrated to them his thoughts about life and death. “He spoke of universal brotherhood and oneness of the mankind; how no human being is bad and how the soul in each one was a creation of the same God. He believed that if you moved on the path of truth, that was the biggest achievement.”

In fact, Afzal was so calm in the morning that he even penned down some of his thoughts, put the date and time on the paper and signed it.

When asked by the jail staff about his last thoughts of his family, on who would take care of them, Afzal said “it was God who looks after each one of us and so would be the case now”.

“His strength came from his spirituality. He was a learned man; as well versed in Islam as with Hinduism. Often, he would tell us about the similarities in the two religions. Some time ago he had read all the four Vedas. How many Hindus have actually done that? You normally rejoice at the end of evil, [but] when a pious soul goes away, it leaves behind a tinge of sorrow,” the official said.

Recalling, how all through Afzal was “joyful” as also “cool and calm”, the officials said in the past they have seen people shiver at being told about their being taken to the gallows. “But here it was just like what we had heard about people going to the gallows smiling.”

Another difference between Afzal and others who were executed for terrorist crimes terrorists, the official said, was that while almost all others had made religious or political cries before being hanged, Afzal just walked the last 100 steps from his cell to the gallows as he normally would and went away wishing those around him.