reading this news in dawn, BBC will be busy making one , they already have a documentary by
British producer Jamie Doran’s film Pakistan’s Hidden Shame
10-year-old boy allegedly raped, strangled in Gujranwala - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
Three-year-old boy sexually assaulted in Bannu - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
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Pakistanis don't take this serious .
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Its really terrible and incredibly barbaric. I hope the criminals get due punishment. And yes BBC please highlight it no matter what.
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Its really terrible and incredibly barbaric. I hope the criminals get due punishment. And yes BBC please highlight it no matter what.
this lanat is far more spread in our society than one can think of..most people would of-course never come forward to save themselves and their families from embarrassment. plus as article pointed out, it is very difficult to prosecute this crime. May Allah have mercy on us
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this lanat is far more spread in our society than one can think of
That is unfortunately true. Especially in rural Pakistan, young boys are often sexually exploited, either by adult males or older boys. Such exploitation is often met with a shrug "boys will be boys", when this isn't a case of boys being boys but rather 5, 6, 7 year old boys being sexually exploited by boys who are up to ten years older than them.
I'm trying to raise awareness on this, in the rural area where I have my origins, but its not easy. More than once it has come to physical altercation. My cousin was sadly subjected to such abuse, in his childhood, and it ruined his life. So its one of those issues which I can not stay quiet on.
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Pakistanis don't take this serious .
Can law be passed in NA for people involved in such inhuman crime should their penis cut publicly and make 'taawiz' with black thread to hang around their necks of these b@st@4ds?
I guarenttee you 100% this will deter such b@st@4ds to even think such inhuman act for ever.
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That is unfortunately true. Especially in rural Pakistan, young boys are often sexually exploited, either by adult males or older boys. Such exploitation is often met with a shrug "boys will be boys", when this isn't a case of boys being boys but rather 5, 6, 7 year old boys being sexually exploited by boys who are up to ten years older than them.
I'm trying to raise awareness on this, in the rural area where I have my origins, but its not easy. More than once it has come to physical altercation. My cousin was sadly subjected to such abuse, in his childhood, and it ruined his life. So its one of those issues which I can not stay quiet on.
God bless you......i know exactly what you are saying. I have family from rural areas as well and know many cases. there are many idiots on this forum who know nothing about rural problems in pakistan, never lived there for one single day and will start screaming from top of their lungs hey how dare you maligning pakistan and that every region has this problem blah blah but people like you who know the ground realities know the extent of this lanat in our rural areas, even in small towns, qasbas and cities it is so widespread. it is a taboo and no one wants to talk about it. it is accepted as it is. appreciate your hard work to expose this bigotry in your rural areas.
Re: After BBC's India's Daughter, now i guess they will make Pakistan's Son :-)
That is unfortunately true. Especially in rural Pakistan, young boys are often sexually exploited, either by adult males or older boys. Such exploitation is often met with a shrug "boys will be boys", when this isn't a case of boys being boys but rather 5, 6, 7 year old boys being sexually exploited by boys who are up to ten years older than them.
I'm trying to raise awareness on this, in the rural area where I have my origins, but its not easy. More than once it has come to physical altercation. My cousin was sadly subjected to such abuse, in his childhood, and it ruined his life. So its one of those issues which I can not stay quiet on.
Disagree. This laanat is more in Urban areas where concentration of population per area is much more than rural. This laanat is directly proportional to population per unit area.
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God bless you......i know exactly what you are saying. I have family from rural areas as well and know many cases. there are many idiots on this forum who know nothing about rural problems in pakistan, never lived there for one single day and will start screaming from top of their lungs hey how dare you maligning pakistan and that every region has this problem blah blah but people like you who know the ground realities know the extent of this lanat in our rural areas, even in small towns, qasbas and cities it is so widespread. it is a taboo and no one wants to talk about it. it is accepted as it is. appreciate your hard work to expose this bigotry in your rural areas.
People not only refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem, but also frame the discussion in terms of patriotism. If you are criticizing something about Pakistan, you are not patriotic. I don't get it. If you are truly patriotic, wouldn't you want to address the problem and make Pakistan better?
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why don't they make documentaries on all those pakistanis in uk who do nothing but sit on welfare their whole khandaan lives just like they were living in mirpur. ??
They can find that anywhere in the uk, no need to flock to pakland......save thosr pounds
I watched India's daughter last night and couldn't sleep the rest of the night. Very disturbing and heart breaking. I wish the juvenile was sentenced to death as well. He will be released only after 3 years in jail.
She was definitely a fighter and after hearing from her parents, I can see where she gets it from.
Somehow I had forgotten the detail that the rapists removed her intestines. How do you manage to do that with just your bare hands? sickening!
I also got mad at the married guy's wife who was pleading for her husband to be freed because she would have no one to support her. umm if I was her, I'd be asking for divorce. What a selfish woman! Even if he had escaped the death penalty, how do you go on living with a guy who brutally raped and murdered someone?
RIP Jyoti! Can't imagine the pain her parents must be going through everyday.
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I watched India's daughter last night and couldn't sleep the rest of the night. Very disturbing and heart breaking. I wish the juvenile was sentenced to death as well. He will be released only after 3 years in jail. She was definitely a fighter and after hearing from her parents, I can see where she gets it from. Somehow I had forgotten the detail that the rapists removed her intestines. How do you manage to do that with just your bare hands? sickening! I also got mad at the married guy's wife who was pleading for her husband to be freed because she would have no one to support her. umm if I was her, I'd be asking for divorce. What a selfish woman! Even if he had escaped the death penalty, how do you go on living with a guy who brutally raped and murdered someone? RIP Jyoti! Can't imagine the pain her parents must be going through everyday.
That documentary was very disturbing. What drives these monsters to do such horrible things to another human being is dehumanization. They are taught from childhood that girls are inferior to boys. The way they are treated at work, in buses and trains, at homes etc, will eventually lead girls' dehumanization. That is what drives this kind of thinking and eventually these crimes.
The wife probably said those things at the behest of his lawyer. Did you hear what the lawyer had to say about it? He is supposed to be an educated guy. What compounds the ridiculousness is there is a large group of people in India who are trying to discredit the documentary as anti-India and anti-Modi.
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Child Molestation was discussed on PA couple of years ago too.
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Hats off to you brother.
Just out of curiosity, How are you trying to raise awareness on this issue in rural areas?
Sach - I do understand your point of population density in urban areas but overall I agree with PD that it is more common in rural areas than in Urban areas. Not saying that educated folks do not indulge in this but Maybe education is a factor too. In my observation people from rural areas have more experiences with
1 – having sex with farm animals (which can be a stepping stone towards #2](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2) and #3](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=3) )
2 – child molestation,
3 – prostitution ( a lot of time when Ex-Pats come back to Pak from abroad they come back with some money and want to ‘live their sexual fantasies via prostitutes’ )
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ok…you have definitely spent some time in rural areas. spot on observations. I knew about your point 1 but did not bring it up. having sex with farm animals is sadly a norm in villages especially with female donkeys. like you said, this is considered as a teaching platform to move to step 2 and 3. In some of the siraiki villages, they have a terminology for female donkeys. they call them “ustad khotiee”…The issue is that every generation goes through the same cycle and therefore no one wants to talk about it. people will just laugh about them or will start fighting. No NGO has ever spent any serious time addressing these social issues in our culture.
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Pakistanis don't take this serious .
As demonstrated by the title of this thread.
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Exactly … Be-ghairati intihaa ki and ppl keep talking about izzat and what not 
Constantly in denial and still consider the country “qila of Islam” and it’s ppl “warriors of Islam” 
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Its mostly in my own village and a couple of neighbouring villages. At the moment I haven’t mustered the courage to speak openly about it elsewhere, because even mentioning sexuality in rural areas, can inflame people quite a lot.
My brother (whos also part of the cause) and I have used these approaches,
Speak to near and distant relatives about them being observant on who their children spend time with. And have their children notify the parents, if they are subject to inappropriate behaviour, by adults or older boys. Also tell them to educate their children on what constitutes as inappropriate behaviour.
If one of us notice older boys (adolescents and even teens) spending considerable amount of time with kids who are much younger than them, we will invite fathers of the younger ones to our home and have a talk with them. It might be on general exploitation, but if I know the fathers well, I don’t refrain from mentioning the sexual part. Obviously said boys are at times related, so this path must be tread lightly. But I know of quite a few cases where older boys sexually exploited younger relatives, to think that it can not occur.
Obviously its not implied that their child is being molested/exploited, but they are just notified that it can occur especially when their child is spending considerable time with someone much older, so they need to monitor the situation, and its best if the child plays with children in his own age group.
There is a doctor in the area, whos help we have enlisted, so his wife (also a doctor) can inform mothers as well. In return the doctors get to rent office space for free.
I think an authority figure attacking the issue from an Islamic perspective can yield good results.
Approach 3 and 4 are huge steps, and can inflame people, so we are aware there can be repercussions.
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this is amazing and jazak allah for doing it. you are doing great. you should be mentioned in proud Pakistanis thread.