Africa Debt Cancellation

Here’s food for thought.

“Despite an emerging consensus in favor of complete debt cancellation for the poorest heavily indebted countries, the G-7 group of rich countries failed this weekend to reach agreement on how to cancel the debt. Meanwhile a new UN report noted that between 1970 and 2002, African countries received some $540 billion in loans, paid back close to $550 billion in principal and interest, and still held debt of $295 billion at the end of 2002.”

And after weeks of delibration and discussions and meetings the G8 has decided to write of around $50 Bn ("if they meet target for good governace and tackling corruption) by 2010.

A mere $50 Bn … is that even a figure to consider.. The group’s probably gonna get back that amount in 3 years with the amount of interest the african nations are paying.

Considering the US has spent over $190 Bn on iraq, and Billions spent by Uk , Australia and the likes.

They cancelled of $50Bn .. i can’t believe it. Thats just saying "oh well , its ok that you poor african countries , whose population is dying of hunger , Aids, civil war and otehr epidemics, don’t pay that interest of 2 years on the loan you own us . And hey, be happy we aren’t bombarding you , cause we’re just triggger happy and your just to puny to be considered in the “your with us or against us” part of war.

$50 Bn , thats just pocket change for the G8 .

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A quick summary of the way the G8 works using their tools the IMF and World Bank to kill Africa and Asia:

Angola was loaned 260 million it has paid back 1444 million

Cameroon was loaned 190 million it has paid back 545 million

Kenya was loaned 195 million it has since paid back 716 million

Veitnam was loaned 257 million it has paid back 1410 million

Argentina took a stand and refused to back back these ridiculous interest on loans and because it took a stand its economy woke up not on a grand scale but enough to get back on its feet.

The figures above where based on world bank stats in 2000 if somebody has more uptodate figures it would be useful.

For every $2 in aid Africa receives $1 paid back in interest payments.

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50% interest rates :eek:whoa these aid giving countries are worst than indian mahajans.khoon choosane wale keede:mad:

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The G8 deal to wipe out $40bn (£23bn) of debt owed by 18 of the world’s poorest countries has been hailed by some as a great act of western philanthropy.

Campaigners complain that donor countries are using the debt relief package to force privatisation and a liberal economic agenda.

Few can forget the floods that devastated Mozambique five years ago.

Television pictures showed people clambering up trees to escape the rising waters. One woman even gave birth while she waited to be rescued from the tree-tops.

What most concerned viewers would not have realised was that Mozambique’s water system was privatised the previous year at the World Bank’s behest.

To gain Highly Indebted Poor Country (HIPC) status - to qualify for aid and debt relief - the country had to privatise its urban water supply.

In 1999 the Aguas de Mocambique consortium, headed by the French firm Saur, took on a 15-year contract.
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But after huge swathes of the country were left under water, at an enormous cost, Saur announced it was pulling out.**

No reason was given but reports at the time said the increasing returns on which the consortium’s business plan was based were not realised.

The firm still will not comment on the reason for its withdrawal.

But such a pull-out would not have been an option for a state-owned utility.

War on Want campaigns director John Hilary explains: "To qualify for debt relief and have the opportunity to tackle poverty, countries have to do these sometimes very damaging thin

In May, two years after signing a deal with consortium City Water, led by British firm Biwater, the Tanzanian government stripped the firm of its contract, saying services had deteriorated.

The government’s decision to ditch the company was seen by many Tanzanians as long overdue, according to the BBC’s Noel Mwakugu, in Das es Salaam.

“What’s worse,” said Mr Hilary, " is that the Tanzanian government had to take out a whole tranche of loans to get the system ready for privatisation."
So far 18 countries have been judged to have reached HIPC “completion point” by the World Bank. A further nine are expected to do so soon.

But for development campaigners like George Mombiot, commentators need look no further than the second paragraph of the G7 finance ministers’ statement on the deal back in mid-June.

This says developing countries must “tackle corruption, boost private sector development, and attract investment” and remove “impediments to private investment both domestic and foreign.”

For Mr Mombiot the enforced liberalisation and privatisation the deal contains “are as onerous as the debt it relieves.”

But the Treasury says this is simply how economies grow and not an attempt to enforce privatisation.

Another case, where the World Bank encouraged Mozambique to increase its user charges for health care, shows just how damaging liberal economics can be, he says.

“In this case if you don’t pay - you don’t get the services. It actually kills people.”

G8 = Always a catch whatever we say don’t belive us what we really mean is we will rip you off as much as we can because we are the capitalist Mafia!

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The horror of trying to make these countries self sufficient so they needn’t rely on Aid.

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I think self sufficency is the last thing on the minds of the G8

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If you're a country that is self sufficent then you can be productive member in churching the global economic wheel.

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that is an ideal and a self sufficent state is competition and the corporate mafia in the G8 don’t want competition and like very much the status quo just the way it is.

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These 3rd world African nations aren't going to become any economical threat in our lifetimes ak, let’s be real. Reducing poverty and starvation benefits the G8 in many ways more than economically. And the cold economical benefit was tongue-in-cheek.

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the 3rd world as you call it is first world in terms of resources without them your economies would come to a halt lets be real here. Reducing poverty is a noble cause but putting a few pennies aside while grabbing the dollars in debt is pointless exercise and is in reality a media show.

using previous example:
**Angola was loaned 260 million it has paid back 1444 million **

^ any normal person even ones who have no interest in politics can see what a joke this is.