Re: Afghanistan to establish diplomatic relations with Israel
try harder :D
May be it is a joke. Just like their joke about America attacking Iran in summer. Remember that?
Re: Afghanistan to establish diplomatic relations with Israel
^^ yes keep being doing what our arab masters tell us to do
You seem like an anti-semitic racist.
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i urge muslims to gather their thoughts in this period where change is inevitable. to choose a direction they are all happy with or to choose to ignore the islamic connection with others. choose a calm, progressive, conservative future, its the only way islamic countries will be able to defeat some of todays growing problems of unrest and disagreement.
I like this thought.
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You seem like an anti-semitic racist.
Just a proud Pakistani who doesn't want Pakistan to be dictated too by Arabs
And we all know your racist attitude against Israel and Jews
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^^ yes keep being doing what our arab masters tell us to do
Its not about the Arabs, it about understanding that no nation has the right to treat other people like cattle... Israel is an evil entity in its present form... Unless they treat the Paletinians with the respect they deserve, we should NEVER accept them..
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Its not about the Arabs, it about understanding that no nation has the right to treat other people like cattle... Israel is an evil entity in its present form... Unless they treat the Paletinians with the respect they deserve, we should NEVER accept them..
I think it is. In my personal opinion, the only reason why there is no peace between Israel and Arabs is due to Arab racism against Jews.
If Israel was a country of any other religion and creed than Jews, Arabs would have made peace. But because its the Jews, they haven't.
And we are getting dragged into this geographical conflict.
India has excellent relations with Israel and the Arab World.
Why can't Pakistan do the same?
Have relations with Israel and the Arab World and be a force for peace instead of just wagging our tail and doing whatever the Arabs tell us to do.
I am not against the Palestinians. I support a Palestinian state on West Bank and Gaza Strip with East Jerusalem as its capital.
But you have to understand how these areas came under Israeli occupation and how the Refugees started.
All due to Arabs starting wars with Israel and then losing them and the innocent Palestinians paying the price.
Look at the camps in which they live in Egypt, Syria, Lebanon. Except Jordan, Arab countries treat Palestinians like dogs.
Saudi Arabia just opened its citizenship to all people who live there except the Palestinians.
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I have no racist attitude towards Jews. The association between antisemitism and crticsm of Israel a false notion cultivated by zionists and their supporters.
There are many Jews who dont support Israel and even some who go so far as to resent the birth of Israel… You are telling me they are all antisemetic?
Here is a Jewish liberal lawyer who has defended Hamas… In the video you will notice the lawyer saying that many people think Israel is a terrorist nation… You think he is antisemetic too?
Whether you like it or not, Israel is guilty of MANY things, and MANY MANY people agree with the rest of us that Israel is not a nation worth recognizing.
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Just for fun, here is a video on AIPAC…
It talks about how it and other groups like it, are able to manipulate the media and silencing crtics of Israel by labeling them as Antisemetic, just like what you are doing Mercenary my friend.
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This is a another JEWISH HISTORIAN named Dr. Illan Pappe..
Now this is a Jew, speaking against what he calls the ethnic cleansing of Palestinian people…
Is he also an antisemite?
You telling me we should ignore this, and just accept Israel just because someone thinks its politically correct? I agree we should put our country first, but we have nothing to gain from accepting Israel… While we’re at it, should we also sell our soul to India and simply accept their position on Kashmir? I think not…
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I think it is. In my personal opinion, the only reason why there is no peace between Israel and Arabs is due to Arab racism against Jews.
If Israel was a country of any other religion and creed than Jews, Arabs would have made peace. But because its the Jews, they haven't.
And we are getting dragged into this geographical conflict.
India has excellent relations with Israel and the Arab World.
Why can't Pakistan do the same?
Have relations with Israel and the Arab World and be a force for peace instead of just wagging our tail and doing whatever the Arabs tell us to do.
I am not against the Palestinians. I support a Palestinian state on West Bank and Gaza Strip with East Jerusalem as its capital.
But you have to understand how these areas came under Israeli occupation and how the Refugees started.
All due to Arabs starting wars with Israel and then losing them and the innocent Palestinians paying the price.
Look at the camps in which they live in Egypt, Syria, Lebanon. Except Jordan, Arab countries treat Palestinians like dogs.
Saudi Arabia just opened its citizenship to all people who live there except the Palestinians.
Thats your oppinion, I happen to think its due to the fact that Israel still occupies so much of Palestine illegally and treats the Palestinian people like prisoners in their own land... The other Arab countries are simply bitter after having lost so much territory... Golan heights etc.
If Arab were so antisemetic, countires like Egypt wouldnt have ever accepted Israel even after being crushed and losing Sinai to the Israelis.
Also there is no historical context for antisemitism among the Arabs... Historicaly speaking, its been that west that has been antisemetic, not the Arabs and not the Muslim world in general... Why out of the blue is antisemitism such an issue?
Im not a religous person by any means, but even a nominal Muslim should understand that we do have a connection with other Muslims... India is country without these bonds (Although even India didnt accept Israel outright). But if India wants to accept Israel, thats its perogative, we dont have to follow suite.
Sure we might get somthing out of it, but some things are more important then monetary advantage... Recognizing Israel would mean we are compramising our principles... I know Pakistan has compramised many principles, but this is one that we can easily avoid and should avoid.
Eventually Pakistan will have accept Israel, but not in its present form.
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Here is another disgusting display of Israel aggresion…
I honestly HATE Israel, definently an evil state…
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Thats your oppinion, I happen to think its due to the fact that Israel still occupies so much of Palestine illegally and treats the Palestinian people like prisoners in their own land... The other Arab countries are simply bitter after having lost so much territory... Golan heights etc.
That land became occupied in 1967 when arabs launched their war and lost.
If Arab were so antisemetic, countires like Egypt wouldnt have ever accepted Israel even after being crushed and losing Sinai to the Israelis.
Egypt never did. Sadat did and for that he was assassinated.
Also there is no historical context for antisemitism among the Arabs... Historicaly speaking, its been that west that has been antisemetic, not the Arabs and not the Muslim world in general... Why out of the blue is antisemitism such an issue?
Thats because both Arabs and Jews were both under Ottoman rule. Same goes for Hindus and Muslims in India living under British rule.
Im not a religous person by any means, but even a nominal Muslim should understand that we do have a connection with other Muslims... India is country without these bonds (Although even India didnt accept Israel outright). But if India wants to accept Israel, thats its perogative, we dont have to follow suite.
But doesn't that mean instead of just blindly joining one side that we try find a solution to the conflict instead of joining it?
Sure we might get somthing out of it, but some things are more important then monetary advantage... Recognizing Israel would mean we are compramising our principles... I know Pakistan has compramised many principles, but this is one that we can easily avoid and should avoid.
How exactly are we going to compromise our principles by recognizing Israel?
Won't we be in a better situation to negotiate with the Israel to end its occupation.
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I have seen all the videos.
Posting videos about the occupation isn’t going to change my view because its a false thesis.
I know the conditions the Palestinians live under.
My argument is by recognizing Israel, negotiating with Israel we can end the occupation.
Thats what Sadat did and he got the Golan back.
Infact in September 1967, Israel offered to give back all territories occupied in the 1967 War but Arabs refused.
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Here is an Former american senetor saying that America allows Israel to inflict terror on innocent people…Justify this stuff Israel supporters!
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I have no racist attitude towards Jews. The association between antisemitism and crticsm of Israel a false notion cultivated by zionists and their supporters.
There are many Jews who dont support Israel and even some who go so far as to resent the birth of Israel... You are telling me they are all antisemetic?
But when Muslims criticize Israel it is always under the connotation of Israel being Jewish and thus that is racist and anti-semetic.
Here is a Jewish liberal lawyer who has defended Hamas... In the video you will notice the lawyer saying that many people think Israel is a terrorist nation... You think he is antisemetic too?
So what, there are many Muslims like Isrhad Manji who take the opposite view....
Whether you like it or not, Israel is guilty of MANY things, and MANY MANY people agree with the rest of us that Israel is not a nation worth recognizing.
Israel is a country forced to make tough choices. Attacked in 1948, 67 and 73. If Arabs get off their high horse and their racist views against Jews and make peace with Israel.
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I have seen all the videos.
Posting videos about the occupation isn't going to change my view because its a false thesis.
I know the conditions the Palestinians live under.
My argument is by recognizing Israel, negotiating with Israel we can end the occupation.
Thats what Sadat did and he got the Golan back.
Infact in September 1967, Israel offered to give back all territories occupied in the 1967 War but Arabs refused.
Sorry buddy, you have pointless point.. You said we are antisemites for not supporting Israel, why not address the fact that MANY NON ARABS AND JEWS THEMSELVES FEEL THE SAME WAY... Are they antisemites, answer that question.
You have no thesis...
Point is simple, we dont recognize a country that treats people like cattle...
Dont watch the videos if you dont want.. Its just a reminder to other people who fall for the Zinonist lobby BS and garbage.. You can be their mouth piece all you want, but facts are plain for all to see.
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This is a another JEWISH HISTORIAN named Dr. Illan Pappe.. Now this is a Jew, speaking against what he calls the ethnic cleansing of Palestinian people...
Is he also an antisemite?
Like I said, there are many people on both sides who criticize each other
You telling me we should ignore this, and just accept Israel just because someone thinks its politically correct? I agree we should put our country first, but we have nothing to gain from accepting Israel... While we're at it, should we also sell our soul to India and simply accept their position on Kashmir? I think not...
I disagree. Because your basic assumption that all Jews came from Europe kicked out the Palestinians and created their Jewish state is totally wrong.
Like I said, I am done debating Israel/Palestine on Gupshup. I did in the past, but no more.
Its pointless.
I know I am 100% correct and I know you are 100% wrong and I know you are not going to change your views and there is nothing that you can say to me to change my views.
So lets just leave it at that.
good night
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Again, YOU CLAIM LIKE MOST ISRALE ZINONISTS THAT ANYONE WHO CRITISIZED ISRAEL IS AN ANTISEMITE, AND YET MANY JEWS THEMSELVES CRITISIZE ISRAEL..
So HOW can someone who critisizes ISRAEL be an antisemite?
And WHY should we accpet ISRAEL? So they can continue their sustematic destruction of THE pALESTINIAN PEOPLE?
Other countries have also accepted Israel, and Israel still behaves the way it does... What difference will ti make if Pakistan accepts them? Suddenly they will strat listening to PAKSITAN?!?!?
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Like I said, there are many people on both sides who criticize each other
I disagree. Because your basic assumption that all Jews came from Europe kicked out the Palestinians and created their Jewish state is totally wrong.
Like I said, I am done debating Israel/Palestine on Gupshup. I did in the past, but no more.
Its pointless.
I know I am 100% correct and I know you are 100% wrong and I know you are not going to change your views and there is nothing that you can say to me to change my views.
So lets just leave it at that.
good night
I know Jews didnt all come from Israel, but most of the founders of zionist movement were of Europe and they were inspired by events that transpired in Europe, not in the Middle East. Please do me the honor of not insulting my inteligence here...
Anyone who thinks they are 100 percent right is usually somone who lacks the confidence in defending their convictions...
I dont thik im 100 percent correct, im open to discussion, but you arent giving me anything to work with.. Still dont understand why you are obsesivly backing Israel when we clearly have nothing to gain from them except a dirty conciounce.
And im sure everyone would make peace with the ISRAELIS IF THE STOPPED ACTING LIKE SUCH A HOLES...
Go to bed with this understanding atleast, THAT PEOPLE WHO CRITISIZE ISRAEL ARE NOT AUTOMATICALLY ANTISEMITES...
Thats like saying that if you critisize Pakistan, you are against Muslims...Its a ridiculous notion.
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Sorry buddy, you have pointless point.. You said we are antisemites for not supporting Israel, why not address the fact that MANY NON ARABS AND JEWS THEMSELVES FEEL THE SAME WAY... Are they antisemites, answer that question.
You are going in circles.
I never said criticizing Israel was anti-semetic. I said Muslims use the Jewish nature of Israel to criticize it. And that is anti-semetic.
You have no thesis... Point is simple, we dont recognize a country that treats people like cattle...
Its not as simple as that.
Dont watch the videos if you dont want.. Its just a reminder to other people who fall for the Zinonist lobby BS and garbage.. You can be their mouth piece all you want, but facts are plain for all to see.
I have seen more videos than you can possibly fathom.
But I am not about to be one sided on this issue. I examine both sides and make a judgement call and I have.
Zionist, Western Media are typical rhetoric which is repeated by people like you whenever any other muslim voices an alternate opinion to the status quo in regards to Israel.