Ahsanullah Aryan Zai is Afghanistan’s minister for Site Acquisition and housing said that India is using Afghan soil to destabilize Pakistan. Afghan security agencies are unable to tackle Indian agencies due to lack of resources.
He is obviously not a Pakistani/ISI agent and Afghan government is known to be pro India so why would he say something Pakistanis hasve been saying for months now. Indian agencies are doing it’s best to make use of the tough situation in Pakistan to destabilize us.
Indians are active in Afghanistan. That's for sure.
However we must go beyond the rhetoric to see what Indians can really do via Afghans. At the very top, Afghans are badly divided between at least three (if not more) groups.
Northern Alliance - Non Pashtun Uzbeks, Tajiks, hazaras etc.
Pro-Karzai Pashtuns
Anti-Karzai Pashtuns
India is in cahoots with #1 and #2 or NA and pro-Karzai pashtuns.
3 are most Islamists and Talibs and thus being funded by wahabi-arabs from gulf and saudi.
A small section of #3 Islamists may be aligned with Pakistani security agencies.
So India can try to destabilize "indirectly" by using its influence with #1 and #2 as:
a) getting intel on Pakistani army deployment
b) not letting to finalize the international border between Afghanistan and Pakistan.
c) by helping assassinate pro-Pakistan Pashtuns (in FATA and in Afghanistan).
However in our current situation, Pakistan is being hammered by afghan group #3 aka Islamists and Talibs where India has little or no influence.
Thus from near-term dangers, Wahabi-Arabs are much bigger threat as compared to Indians.
last 10 year who world, and media is talk about how bad we are AND what our issues are.
Do I need to look any further then turning the TV on for 5 mins??????
last 10 year who world, and media is talk about how bad we are AND what our issues are.
Do I need to look any further then turning the TV on for 5 mins??????
Whole world is talking about how bad the "situation" is and not how bad "you" are ... hope you understand the difference ..... and switching off the TV is not going to solve the problem that "exists".
Perhaps if Pakistani establishment has "acted" against people like Mehsud .... (who has been having peace deals with Pakistani governement every year since 2005), then today he would not have been an issue the way he is !!!
The establishment in Pakistan is also hoping that this will go away once you switch off the TV ..... it doesn't .... you have to take the devil by the horn !!!!
Re: Afghan Minister: India using Afghan soil to destabilize Pakistan
bullsh*t.
i bet the afghan minister didnt even say this. pakistani newspapers just manufacture their own news - indian made weapons found, indian agents arrested, afghan suicide bombers, RAW agents..
in the end it is all disgrunted pakistanis. you keep launching missile strikes on your own tribal people, they will come knocking on your cities.
The establishment in Pakistan is also hoping that this will go away once you switch off the TV ..... it doesn't .... you have to take the devil by the horn !!!!
This is going to come as a BIG surprise to you, but killing is not our style!!!
What ever you think, we DID not design our country to kill our own ppl!!!
Our army and police institution have 3 feet high security walls. OUR pll use to DEFEND pakistan. THANKS to MUSH now our ppl kill police and army.
Holding from horn is indian/emeekan style.
not OUR thing.
With NO forign influence + tiny bit less currept leaders we CAN handle situation with out huge damage.
i bet the afghan minister didnt even say this. pakistani newspapers just manufacture their own news - indian made weapons found, indian agents arrested, afghan suicide bombers, RAW agents..
in the end it is all disgrunted pakistanis. you keep launching missile strikes on your own tribal people, they will come knocking on your cities.
I don't know how much hindi you know but your reply can be best described as " Khisyani billi khamba nochay".
There are thousands of threads about Pakistanis destablizing our country so stick to the topic.
Looks like you have memorized the Hindi proverb, but have not understood its meaning. By posting such baseless articles, you are the one behaving like a "khisiyani billi" :p
Re: Afghan Minister: India using Afghan soil to destabilize Pakistan
Indian is stronger than ever on both western and eastern fronts- Pakistan has to fight them on both the fronts now and most of the Pakistanis blame general Zia shaheed ul haq for makng Pakistan a bad place. Had mard-e-momin been alive, he would have never allowed Indians to set up thousand of camps in Afghanistan- he literally ruled Afghanistan and all Afghans listened to him.
Indian is stronger than ever on both western and eastern fronts- Pakistan has to fight them on both the fronts now and most of the Pakistanis blame general Zia shaheed ul haq for makng Pakistan a bad place. Had mard-e-momin been alive, he would have never allowed Indians to set up thousand of camps in Afghanistan- he literally ruled Afghanistan and all Afghans listened to him.
Looks like you have memorized the Hindi proverb, but have not understood its meaning. By posting such baseless articles, you are the one behaving like a "khisiyani billi" :p
Blah blah blah.....Everyone can see who is acting like a "Khisyani billi"
Re: Afghan Minister: India using Afghan soil to destabilize Pakistan
^^
Grown up or not it is a typical kid's reaction to blame everything that is going bad on somebody else...
Hope you understand...
India should not do anything to destabilise Pakistan at this point in time.
A stable Pakistan is in India's interests. India does not want somebody like Osama to be in power in Pakistan though it looks like it is just a matter of time before Taliban takes over.
Grown up or not it is a typical kid's reaction to blame everything that is going bad on somebody else...
ISI is responsible for EVERY single problem in India whereas RAW is probably a charity organisation carrying out relief work in Afghanistan???
The reason why this thread was created is because Afghan minister has confirmed what Pakistan has been saying for years but you still think we are just blaming???
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Hope you understand...
India should not do anything to destabilise Pakistan at this point in time.
A stable Pakistan is in India's interests. India does not want somebody like Osama to be in power in Pakistan though it looks like it is just a matter of time before Taliban takes over.
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They obviously should NOT destabilize Pakistan because it's not in their own interest.
Why do you think Pakistani government would sponsor an attack on Mumbai when we were in complete political mess???
Bombs were going off in Pakistan on daily basis and you really believe that government was busy planning attacks on India?????
Your logic is based on the fact that if ISI does it them RAW must be doing it too !!! While as you are willing to listen to some afghani minister you are not willing to listen to your won countrymen and also a minister in NWFP … he has put the blame on “Pakistani Agency” for all the bloodshed … now which agency is this is anybody’s guess !!!
No one has blamed Pakistani government and they surely have nothing to gain from attacking Mumbai. The people who have been blamed for this attack are the same people who have “invested” a lot in continued bloodshed with India, who want Pakistan forces to be moved from the tribal areas in Pakistan. This was an attempt to scuttle the peace process between India and Pakistan and you know who are the people who gain most by this !!!
Also this guy is no minster … he is an advisor in some minstry !!!