Anyway I was expecting to have an intelligent conversation with like minded guys. This wasn't the right place to come to. This thread can be locked.
Dear Adam,
Your question revolved around asset protection. It's possible to freeze them or set them onto isolated growth with a certain time frame. Then I have seen some brilliant financial advisers from Isle of Man. There have been some loop holes around where some nationalities are exempted from certain wealth division in divorce settlement. I am aware of a specific one who involved somebody Irish.
I am not really sure what kind of wealth you are sitting onto, if its something coming out of restaurant business, or if it's something that rests on volatile secondary assets such automobile dealership. What kind of liquidation we are talking about. So it's really hard to answer your question. I'd suggest you seek professional paid advice from finance consultant and lawyer specializing in divorce and marriages.
Having said that, I really agree with badtamiz, He was spot on. Let's say you were able to protect your assets, you get married to someone, marriage works out for you, 7 years later she finds out you had protected assets with reason revolving around marriage, events like that are deal breaker in matured marriages and can initiate cracks. Quite possibly you need some time to think. Idea of marriage does not usually work like that. Your life partner is one of few who you should be able trust in financial matters, in terms of advice, knowledge keeping and management.
Being lil rude to him, was not a good gesture as well.
If you put so much effort into finding a solution to protect ur assets you will clearly ignore the important bit which is to find a girl who is a genuine partner & not after ur money. Clearly you are investing ur energy in the wrong place...
Everyone I have seen in my life take this approach is either in a loveless marriage or has ended up with a divorce :/ because the energy u send out in this world, u somehow get it back..if u r going to be so strategic about choosing her make sure she isn't being the same about choosing u!
This isn't a business deal, so id suggest u stop being so strategic about it!
So u want a maid essentially with added benefits and if things go " sour " you want to dismiss her without any repercussions on you! Either marry a working woman who has ability to.be financially independent or if you want to financially cripple your wife you would need to bear her expences and quite rightly she would have access to you wealth should you divorce her.
This sort of thinking is exactly y we need feminism and I want to ensure all my daughters/ neices can understand the value of a career and financial awareness.
I dont understand why do they have this law in the UK. Anyhow how about you marry someone from a well off family, a girl who will be so rich herself that she wont be after your money, and probably someone from a well known, shareef family, the kind of families where divorce is a taboo?
They have this law to prevent rich men from holding their wives financially hostage. The OP specifically wants a housewife so he won't allow her to work. If they divorce how donyoy expext a woman who has been out of the workplace for x no of years to support herself?
If you are so worried about your wife being financially dependent on you facilitate her career and ability to earn independently
If you’re that rich, I’m sure you can afford to hire a well known lawyer who can tell you all about how to avoid the law (bringing spouse without being registered) and protect your “fortune” as well - don’t be kanjoos now.. Until then, do look up @badabing, he is a british guy with the same problem. Maybe you two can guide each other.
And in order to bring her over I require a spousal visa which requires me to get married officially. Are there any other ways to bring a person over into the UK? Or are there any other ways I have guaranteed asset protection and marry at the same time? Many thanks.
1) I imagine there are plenty of other ways for people to enter the UK other than spousal visa. A little bit of time doing research on the internet should bring up all those options. Of course, it would involve both you and the girl lying on government documents but the end goal, her coming to the UK, can be accomplished. Of course, if you find someone in Europe, then this isn't even an issue.
2) If you really have a "fortune", then it should be very easy for you to find and hire an attorney who specializes in estate planning for high net worth individuals. That's who you need to talk to in order to find out how to structure all your assets so it can be protected during a divorce.
I think we're being harsh on OP
the best bet is to arrange for prenuptials to protect your wealth and income
A totally amazing coincidence happened. I had read Deeba's signature before. But today I read it is Confucius is silent. I was going to wisecrack - no he isn't. Gives a lot of advice (Chinese cookies).
Then what do you know - the next poster was Confucius.
This was the best coincidence I have experienced. And I have experienced quite a few.
That's great. So how much are you planning to pay her for each meal she makes, each shirt she irons, each baby she pops out, each night of sex?
You're gonna Have to itemize this one baby. And once you do, you're realize she should be making about 200,000 dollars off you, so that's like double in pounds, minimum each year. Since she cares for your home and lives in it, she will own half of it whether you like it or not.
So at time of divorce, will you foot her 200k per year you were married to her and half the house ?
You're approaching this whole thing wrong. May Allah protect you and guide you against any atrocities towards your future wife.
And Islam is actually pretty feminist. If you cared to follow the Quran.
You don't want her to work. Yet if you decide you don't like her anymore she gets the boot AND no financial support or home or nationality by the looks of it.
And exactly what is your haq mehr to her?
Islam gives women more rights than you think.
Also please do tell us what your assets are? Why oh why am I assuming it's roughly half a horse and 2 chickens.
You want a traditional wife who will cook and clean and NOT work. So she will depend on you entirely for her financial support. Your reason for wanting a Pakistani wife seem like its because she will be too naive to know what’s going on so might not even question you. Basically she won’t know if she has any rights and you will make sure she has none. Pretty sinister man. Pretty darn sinister. That poor woman.
And you also want to make sure that in the event of you divorcing her, she doesn’t have a nickel to her name.
You sound like you just had a bad breakup and are bitter towards women.
In any case, marriage is not for you right now. You need therapy and a really good lawyer that can help you plan a pre-nup.
Also, if you plan on double crossing a woman, do it to someone who can defend herself. Not an unsuspecting victim who might not be able to defend herself if she needed to. That’s low.
That's great. So how much are you planning to pay her for each meal she makes, each shirt she irons, each baby she pops out, each night of sex?
You're gonna Have to itemize this one baby. And once you do, you're realize she should be making about 200,000 dollars off you, so that's like double in pounds, minimum each year. *Since she cares for your home and lives in it, she will own half of it whether you like it or not.
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So at time of divorce, will you foot her 200k per year you were married to her and half the house ?
You're approaching this whole thing wrong. May Allah protect you and guide you against any atrocities towards your future wife.
And Islam is actually pretty feminist. If you cared to follow the Quran.
The bit in bold is not true in the UK if they aren't legally married.. That's one of the big differences between so-called 'common law' marriage (which in reality is basically living together like a bf/gf in the eyes of the law) and actual legal marriage..
You have far far fewer rights, which is seemingly what such men find so appealing..
The bit in bold is not true in the UK if they aren't legally married.. That's one of the big differences between so-called 'common law' marriage (which in reality is basically living together like a bf/gf in the eyes of the law) and actual legal marriage..
I'm curious....in UK, can spouses claim any right to assets/income earned before marriage? For example, with a legal marriage, if the husband bought the house BEFORE the marriage papers were signed, can wife claim any rights to it at all during a divorce?
very interesting and thought provoking thread. the girl who will get married to you will loose alot, if things go wrong in the marriage. you are only worried about your money and not thinking about the girl for whom divorce is a social stigma. if you will respect her and look after her and love her I dont think any girl I know would like to mess her married life up for the sake of money. A respectable girl from Paki land or Uk will not marry anyone just for their money. Rest assure..........
