i came across an interesting topic today in religion class at school. I am muslim, and this is a catholic school (I’m in 11th grade, 16yrsold), but still i think that this concept completely applies to us also.
In it, it was taught that even wrong thoughts, or desires (nonphysical), of a person that you like and are not married to can be considered as adultery. If you are not married yet, it is still adultery, since during this time you are actually spiritually married to God.
Summing it up, having slight thoughts or desires are like adultery.
on the contrary, it is also thought that, biologically, we are naturally stimulated to have these feelings. that there is not a single person on this planet who probably never felt feelings, or just liked someone he/she was not married to; and that this, what you can call, stimulation by sight, is in no way controlled by our conscience and is an involuntary, uncontrollable action.
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stimulation by sight, is in no way controlled by our conscience and is an involuntary, uncontrollable action.
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Purity of mind is definitely a plus. Not sure if I'd go a step forward and call it "adultery". I can see both sides of the argument, and if you look from a purely Islamic view point, I am sure there is a fatwa (religious ruling) on it, some place; or may be few different opinions. But nothing takes away from the fact, that we, all of us, should strive for purity of mind as well as purity of body.
this is the biggest piece of crap theory i have ever heard....
more learned members can comment on other aspects but this just cracked me up
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I, too, went to a catholic school, and yes, they tell us that nuns and priests are married to "God." Though, I've never heard of regular people being considered "married to God"
I, too, went to a catholic school, and yes, they tell us that nuns and priests are married to "God." Though, I've never heard of regular people being considered "married to God"
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kinda like the crap we have in sindh being married to "quran"???
kinda like the crap we have in sindh being married to "quran"???
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Well, that's a cultural thing, it's not Islamic AT ALL.
But the other thing, that is part of the Catholic belief that their clergy are "married" to God. It's only Catholics who do that though, there is no such thing as celibacy amongst the religiously elite in other Christian sects
Adultery-it's wrong, no matter what, and there is no way one can justify it.
But to what extent does one define adultery, that's open for debate. Some say watching porn is adultery, whereas others say it's adultery only if actual sexual intercourse occurs (i.e. oral sex/foreplay "dont' count").
I think the following hadith seems kinda relevant to this. It talks about adultery metaphorically as opposed to the actual physical act of it.
Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (PBUH) said, "Allah has written the very portion of Zina which a man will indulge in. There will be no escape from it. The Zina of the eye is the (lustful) look, the Zina of the ears is the listening (to voluptuous songs or talk), the Zina of the tongue is (the licentious) speech, the Zina of the hand is the (lustful) grip, the Zina of the feet is the walking (to the place where he intends to commit Zina), the heart yearns and desires and the private parts approve all that or disapprove it.‘’
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].
This is the wording in Muslim; Al-Bukhari wording is a bit short. link
i don't think that is something you can really control...
impure thoughts, i mean...
like you can strive to be better, spend your time better and hope that these thoughts not occur...however, part of being human is temptation...you can't control what tempts you
i think zina is defined by an action and not a thought....
It's included in the earlier hadith with the words, "the heart yearns and desires"
A better translation might be, "The self/inner self (nafs) yearns and desires," and i've seen the same line translated as, "the zina of the mind is wishing and hoping."
According to hadeeth, close meaning to it. The bad deed is not recorded until it is actually done and a good deed is recorded as soon as you make an intention to do a good deed.
i do think that purity of the mind is neccecary along with a pure body when it comes to being free of the sin of adultery; but i do beleive that there is not a single person out there who has not looked at a guy or girl that they may have thought looked nice and had impure thoughts. Regardless what anyone may say, i think that 'this type of adultery', not only being neccecary for someone hitting puberty, is something that cannot be consciencely controlled and is something that goes on continuously, uncontrollably. What do you guys say about this?
