"Adoption" in Islam

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*Originally posted by hafeez123: *

The RESTRICTIONS on adoption is:
-The adpted child cannot be given the adopted parents last name.
From the beginning the adopted CHILD is reminded that it is different.

-The adopted child cannot share in the inheritance.
I wonder if the adopted mother can 'breast-feed' the adopted child. Or, is the mother's milk only for the blood child.

-The adopted child is not a mehram.
In other words as soon as the child attains adult-hood, it can no longer be alone with certain members of family.

Such laws are / were meant for bedouin or goat /camel herding society as was the case with the 7th century arabs .
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With all due respect, the above is incorrect.

The mother CAN breastfeed the adopted son, in which case he is her foster son and a 'mehram'. The same rulings apply as that in a blood relationship.

The child is not constantly reminded that he is different. Infact the purpose is to prevent the trauma to him later in life when he realizes that the people he thought were his parents, are in actuality NOT his parents.

Regarding the will, the father can leave upto one-third in his will for this son (afaik)

If the child is adopted after the breastfeeding age then he is not a mehram and after reaching maturity he has to follow the same rulings as that of a non-mehram.

You keep on making cracks about sunnis, but this is something which is commanded in the Quran (i.e. not calling by the father's name) and NOT something which ahlus-sunnah has made up.

Also, if he were called by his father's name, (and considered an actual son) this would mean that his father's daughters would also have to be considered his sisters. This would mean that he can not marry them, right? How do you justify that, since in this case you will be making something haram for yourself when it isn't (i.e. since you are not related to those girls by your blood father, there is no reason for you not to marry them).

The fact is simple, adopting kids and making them actual sons/daughters affects more issues than it solves. First off, the initial trauma the child faces after realizing his parents aer not his parents after all!! Next off, the issues of adoption and marriage.

Get your facts straight dude, taking care of orphans and any kid that needs a father is a noble deed, but doing so in a manner which makes halal things haram (as noted above) is certainly not noble.

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Good reply Ammarr :k:.

I wonder why hafeez123 keeps saying “sunni fiqh” when referring to Quran’s verses. Does it mean that the fiqh he follows/thinks high of it does not follow Quran?

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If you look at my previous post, you will note that the question re: breastfeeding is in a QUESTION mode.

They CAN (your emphasis) does not mean that is the sharia’h. It is an open - ended option. The Mother may choose or CAN CHOSE not to breast-feed the child and the adopted child is always a non mehram - a STRANGER in the sharia’h context who will NEVER share in inheritance and be always called by a different Family name. What a SCAR this must leave on a young man’s psyche.

THE REALITY is:
ADOPTION is generally PROHIBITED & DISCOURAGED in Sunni Fiqh.
The “taken-in” child - in eyes of Sunni Fiqh is always INFERIOR to the blood child.

No, I do not. Nice try.

No muslim fiqh is based only on Quran.
Sunni Fiqh /Sharia is BASED upon the sunnah as WRITTEN DOWN by the gang of Six (Bukhari, muslim, etc)
So, in REALITY, we -sunnis are followers of BUKHARI.

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*Originally posted by hafeez123: *
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They CAN (your emphasis) does not mean that is the sharia'h. It is an open - ended option. The Mother **may choose or CAN CHOSE not to breast-feed the child and the adopted child is always a non mehram - a STRANGER in the sharia'h context who will NEVER share in inheritance and be always called by a different Family name.**

But then it means it is not "Haram" as you have been crying all this time. Now changing position, eh?

*What a SCAR this must leave on a young man's psyche. *

Better than hiding and finding later in life that s/he is not the child of those "parents".

*THE REALITY is:
ADOPTION is generally PROHIBITED & DISCOURAGED in Sunni Fiqh.
The "taken-in" child - in eyes of Sunni Fiqh is always INFERIOR to the blood child. *

How can you say its "discouraged"? and "generally prohibited"? it could be in your family but not as in fiqh. Only by not inheriting, s/he is "inferior"?

*No muslim fiqh is based only on Quran.
Sunni Fiqh /Sharia is BASED upon the sunnah as WRITTEN DOWN by the gang of Six (Bukhari, muslim, etc)
So, in REALITY, we -sunnis are followers of BUKHARI. *

What fiqh does allow "legal" adoption? you have dodged this question pretty well this far.

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Hafeez is getting desperate now. Playing with words trying to get around it, without making any legitimate points at all.

Its no use discussing an issue with someone who cant carry on a discussion without slinging mud on the other group (i.e. sunnis)

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*Originally posted by ammarr: *
Hafeez is getting desperate now. Playing with words trying to get around it, without making any legitimate points at all.

Its no use discussing an issue with someone who cant carry on a discussion without slinging mud on the other group (i.e. sunnis)
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I have no use playing with words because everything that I say can be substantiated in practise in the countries that rule by such sharia.

What you believe or write will have ZERO bearing on what needs to be accomplished - which is to EXPOSE Sunni & wahabi fiqh for what it is -> EXTREMIST and hate mongering!