Re: Accused in India massacre claims ties to Pakistani secret service
Not sure if you really are naive or just pretending to be :) .
yawn really?..what is this.. grade school?
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By the same token, 'people' have few doubts about involvement of RAW in all kinds of acts of terror in Pakistan, so i guess further proving there is just moot too, since you know..'people' have few doubts. Point being 'people' are a pretty bad gauge of reality, at one time in town many people believed Saddam was behind 9/11 for example. now he was a jackass extra ordinaire, but he had nothing to do with that.
Look, again, not an ISI fanboy here, but the issue with publicizing this sort of development is that if Headley and Rana's claims cant be substantiated than there goes the whole pressure.
find a strong proof, and put a stop to any hanky panky by ISI or any rogue elements there, more power to you, but this sort of mickey mouse, so and so claimed so it must be true, does not add up, and has the counter effect of making an argument lose its strength
And Islamabad does not have any substantiative proof of Indian involvement in any of the Pakistani operations except for some accidentally strayed' Indians whereas Mr.Kasab is aliving fossil' for New Delhi.
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RAW is not involved in Pakistan.RAW has got better international dimensions than executing attack in Pakistan. RAW is engaged in gauging various international relationships and is always answerable to the Prime Minister.
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yawn really?..what is this.. grade school?
Whatever floats your boat, I guess....
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And Islamabad does not have any substantiative proof of Indian involvement in any of the Pakistani operations except for some accidentally strayed' Indians whereas Mr.Kasab is aliving fossil' for New Delhi.
true. I never said islamabad has shown any concrete proof. Atleast nothing that has been publicly shared or disclosed.
I think assorted ppl have been caught and booted out of both countries in the past, but I usually pay no attention, which is part of the reason I am not usually engaged in the usual indo pak chikh chikh in world affairs :)
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Whatever floats your boat, I guess....
what floats my boat is that people discuss any topic in a civil manner :)
now there is no need to guess.
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what floats my boat is that people discuss any topic in a civil manner :) now there is no need to guess.
My apologies for hurting your feelings by calling you naive :)
Now pls don't go and complain to the teacher.
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My apologies for hurting your feelings by calling you naive :)
Now pls don't go and complain to the teacher.
its not an issue of hurting my feelings but contributing to an unpleasant atmosphere for a discussion.
and yes I know that worse goes on here in the indopak pissing contests, which I am completely against, but it does not make it right.
if i wanted to do something about it believe me i would have to complain to no one.
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its not an issue of hurting my feelings but contributing to an unpleasant atmosphere for a discussion. and yes I know that worse goes on here in the indopak pissing contests, which I am completely against, but it does not make it right.
Aren't you being a bit touchy here ?
if i wanted to do something about it believe me i would have to complain to no one.
Come on...that's stretching it a bit too far. "Naive" isn't exactly an abuse.
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''Kasab'' in the video that everyone's seen is as much Pakistani as Dhoni
I mean ignorant Indians like to call this conspiracy theory. I mean let's ask Mr. Kasab "bhagwan ke liya". That video makes me laugh. Pathetic bollywood stunt.
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RAW is not involved in Pakistan.RAW has got better international dimensions than executing attack in Pakistan. RAW is engaged in gauging various international relationships and is always answerable to the Prime Minister.
If you think that then you're either very naive or just lack understanding politics or diplomatic issues.
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If you think that then you're either very naive or just lack understanding politics or diplomatic issues.
Welcome back. :)
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I mean ignorant Indians like to call this conspiracy theory. I mean let's ask Mr. Kasab "bhagwan ke liya". That video makes me laugh. Pathetic bollywood stunt.
I will be clear here. Are you saying the video where this sob kasab from Pakistan is shooting innocent people makes you laugh, then you are nothing less than in immoral idiot of first order. Have some respect for fellow human beings!
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^To prove my point, Indians like yourselves do lack understanding of politics in general. He has killed innocent civilians and i think nobody with sane mind will applaud for what he has done. But issue is more broader than what he has done. So only person you should be calling an idiot must be you. Kasab demonstration was nothing but false flag operation and if not whole Pakistan, but majority of Pakistanis do believe that it was nothing but a bollywood style stunt to prove Indians point of view. My heart does go out to innocent civilians who have lost their lives. And i think that victims should be remembered to serve reminder to hindu extremist elements who were involved in torching train that the lives of human beings are precious regardless of religion, race or color.
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People, stop arguing! It’s clear to me, ISI is the badguy here like always. Raw has ‘nothing to do with Pakistan’, yeah right 
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@Xtron - for the sake of your own country I hope your claims of such naivette for 'majority of Pakistan' is wrong. yeah, there is a braoder issue and that broader issue is whether Pakistan is going to make ISI renounce support and nurturing of terrorism or continue to swirl down inside out as a country. Because as facts have proven in the past several years now, terrorism may affect India once in a while but it feeds on Pakistan every day. How many more of your own suicide-bomber teens exploding themselves inside your own mosques at prayer is it going to take before you and others wake up?
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And i think that victims should be remembered to serve reminder to hindu extremist elements who were involved in torching train that the lives of human beings are precious regardless of religion, race or color.
So are you justifying 26/11 as a response to Samjhauta Express bombing ?
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WOW! I'm speechless, so much crap.
Shabaash bandeyo. Blame it on Pakistan.
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@Xtron - for the sake of your own country I hope your claims of such naivette for 'majority of Pakistan' is wrong. yeah, there is a braoder issue and that broader issue is whether Pakistan is going to make ISI renounce support and nurturing of terrorism or continue to swirl down inside out as a country. Because as facts have proven in the past several years now, terrorism may affect India once in a while but it feeds on Pakistan every day. How many more of your own suicide-bomber teens exploding themselves inside your own mosques at prayer is it going to take before you and others wake up?
Indians in general should get through their thick skull that ISI is our premier intelligence agency which protects our interests. I really don't care if it bites your rear ends at the end of the day. Secondly, the dynamics of terrorism which happens in Pakistan is completely different. And it all has to do with our country allowing drones to kill innocent civilians as well as supporting western forces. And no there is no justification of terrorism by people who carry out these acts. And suicide bombing is act of desperation and not a strategy for any war. So stop pretending to be holier by implicating that somehow they are all same terrorists. You Indians somehow are obsessed with terrorism and create your own false flag operation to justify your point of view. Samjhuta express as well as Kasab drama would be example of this. And why would they do that?. Don't know. To gain sympathy or create a case against Kashmiri freedom fighters and their cause?.
I would like to add few more points. The Indians certainly make no distinctions in their oppression of the Kashmiri people. One attack results in destruction of homes. One ambush results in the invasion of a whole city and weeks long curfews for thousands. Not to mention, raping our sisters in Kashmir. Why should Kashmiri freedom fighters should make any distinction when they kill Indian soldiers?.
Having said all that, you cannot hinder freedom movement in Kashmir and call that terrorism. Kashmir is not even your territory so there is absolute justification of targeting Indian soldiers. Why? because Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris. Period.
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So are you justifying 26/11 as a response to Samjhauta Express bombing ?
26/11 as a response to Samjhuta express?. Hold on there. When did i say this?. I mean if both acts are perpetrated by your country then where is this "as a response" came from?