according to Islam who was on the cross??

mysticroseusa · July 16, 2004, 5:42am

You all have probably heard of the movie, Passion of the Christ. The resurrection of Prophet Isa (peace be upon him) according to Christianity. However, we muslims believe that Prophet Isa (pease be upon him) was not up on the cross. According to Islam who was on the cross?

Faisal · July 16, 2004, 5:49am

Someone. Not Hazrat Isa (Peace be upon him). May as well be Judas.

mysticroseusa · July 16, 2004, 5:52am

that's what my friend told me. Once my Christian friend told me that judas was missing after the sacrifice. it makes sense that he was on the cross that night.

Faisal · July 16, 2004, 5:55am

Well, Christians don't believe the whole Judas-taking-the-place-of-Christ theory anyway, so its unlikely they will take Judas' disappearance as anything more than the fact that since he betrayed Christ, so he feared for his life. An educated Christian can shed more light on the topic.

mysticroseusa · July 16, 2004, 6:00am

yeah . that is right. because they believe that he betrayed Prophet Isa (PBUH)

mysticroseusa · July 16, 2004, 6:01am

However, what does islam say about judas. do the muslims think that he betrayed prophet Isa (pbuh)

Faisal · July 16, 2004, 6:05am

I believe they do. I have never studies this particular incident with a lot of depth, but summararily, the events leading up to the crucifiction are similar in historical text. The difference in Islamic and Christian accounts is on who was crucified, and whether Christ came back on Easter Sunday. The incident is explained in Quran.

mysticroseusa · July 16, 2004, 6:15am

Well, i live in the US and after the movie "passion of the christ" came out everyone went crazy including some of the muslims. I was one those that were trying to tell the my friends what we believe in since they seemed to forget what we believed in.

mysticroseusa · July 16, 2004, 6:18am

There are a lot of similarities between the religions before the crusification.

mysticroseusa · July 16, 2004, 6:19am

actually the two religions separate when it comes to Abraham's son.

stupid_idiot · July 16, 2004, 6:55am

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actually the two religions separate when it comes to Abraham's son.
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how?

RoCKiSTaN · July 16, 2004, 7:10am

Praise ALLAH!

Sadiyah · July 16, 2004, 10:23am

I hope the following helps, insha’Allah. It doesn’t mention who it was that was on the cross, but it outlines the basic Muslim belief about Isa (AS).

We believe that he did not die and his enemies the Jews did not kill him, rather Allaah saved him from them and raised him up to heaven alive.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And because of their (Jews) disbelief and uttering against Maryam (Mary) a grave false charge (that she has committed illegal sexual intercourse);

And because of their saying (in boast), ‘We killed Messiah ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allaah,’ — but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it appeared so to them the resemblance of ‘Eesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man)], and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not *:

But Allaah raised him ‘Eesa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And Allaah is Ever All‑Powerful, All‑Wise”
[al-Nisa’ 4:156-158]

We believe that he told his followers of the coming of our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And (remember) when ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: ‘O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allaah unto you, confirming the Tawraat (Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.’ But when he (Ahmad, i.e. Muhammad) came to them with clear proofs, they said: ‘This is plain magic’”

[al-Saff 61:6]

We believe that he will come back down at the end of time, and will disprove the claim of his enemies the Jews that they killed him, and will disprove the claim of the Christians that he is God or the son of God, and he will not accept anything from them but Islam.

Al-Bukhaari (2222) and Muslim (155) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “By the One in Whose hand is my soul, soon the son of Maryam will descend among you [according to another report: the Hour will not begin until the son of Maryam descends among you] as a just judge. He will break the cross, kill the pigs and abolish the jizyah, and money will become abundant until no one will accept it.”

“Soon” means it will inevitably happen quickly.

“will descend among you” means among this ummah.

“A just judge” means that he will come down and rule according to this sharee’ah, and that this sharee’ah will remain and not be abrogated, rather ‘Eesa will be one of the rulers of this ummah.

“He will break the cross and kill the pigs” means he will declare as false the religion of the Christians by breaking the cross in a real sense and proving false the Christians’ claims and veneration of the cross.

“and he will abolish the jizyah”:

al-Nawawi said:

The correct view concerning this is that he will not accept it, and he will not accept anything from the kaafirs but Islam. If any of them offer the jizyah that will not make him stop fighting them. Rather he will not accept anything but Islam or death. This is the view of Imam Abu Sulaymaan al-Khattaabi and other scholars (may Allaah have mercy on them).

End quote.

Source: The Muslims’ beliefs concerning the Messiah ‘Eesa ibn Maryam*