Accepting other cultures...

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We all as people adopt things from other cultures…im not talking about belief systems…im just talking about tangible things…stuff like clothes, music, food etc…

Now my point is referring to the fact that Pakis especially only feel it is acceptable to accept things from certain cultures…certain cultures are higher than others…this kind of attitude was shown by some in a thread which for some reason has been removed…

For instance…i was accused of being a kalla wannabe due to the fact that i have a cornrowed hairstyle…the way i was addressed was in a a negative manner…the hairstyle was declared as uncivilised by one poster…the same poster probably believes dreads…baggy clothing and rap n rnb music are also uncivilised…and anyone that listens to them is a kalla wannabe…

However when it comes to white culture…no-one ever accuses someone of trying to be white…girls dye their hair all the time…your jeans and blouses certainly didnt come from the brown people…neither did you spoons or cutlery…yet when people exhibit aspects of white culture…it is seen as civilised…and is not looked at as wannabe goray or whatever…

Remember i sit on the fence…if i like something i like it…i dont care who it comes from whether they are black, white or brown…

However i think those who call other people wannabes need to realise that they are as much of a wannabe as me if they dont wear a salwar kameeze, dupatta and eat with their hands…cos these are aspects of your culture…

But hey im used to double standards with pakis anyway…

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culture and heritage r bullcrap.. change ur cultural habits if u like or u have to just make sure what u r going to do doesnt clash with ur religion..

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I have always worn shalwar kameez even in public. I also wear a dupatta because what is the purpose of wearing s/k if you are not going to drape a dupatta. Also, i eat with my hands not all the times but daal chawal i sometimes enjoy eating with my hands. There is nothing wrong with it.

I am who i am. No one can change that. No matter how much one tries to change themself they are always going to be who they originally are.

It is very important that people remember where they have come from.

I have also worn shalwar kameez(stylish ones) to work when i held a very professional position. I wanted to let the others know who i am and they need to respect that. When we use to have weekly meetings at my managers home. She would make an extra effort by making sure that all the food that i was to eat was pork-free. She would makes salads and veggies especially for me. They would make sure that my drinks were non-alcoholic. Why they did all that because i made a point of who i am and how i was to be treated. So, i basically think it is upto each individual what they want from others.

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that's very considerate of ur boss.

its nice that ur rpoud of who u r but cultural/national identies change over centuries anyway and do u not feel a bit rude holding onto ur culture in a foreign land? racist people tend to drive me more towards paki culture but others r soo nice n accomodating i feel guilty not assimilaitng..

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One does not need to wear salwar kameez all the time to hold thier culture close :) And anyway, culture is not as important as religion, religion deserves mroe importance and priority than a culture that changes over time and has multiple meanings.

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^^ i never said i enjoyed eating daal chawal with my hands in public. True, it should not be culture but religion that needs to be kept close to heart. And that is why i mentioned how my manager made sure that everything i consumed was halal, which is part of religion not culture.

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Oh of course, I was talking about the eating with hands and salwar kameez, not the non-alcohol and halal food, but to say taht someone doesn't appear ot keep their roots close is not a human being is kinda.. uhm i dunno harsh :p

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^^ see above............happy???

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:)

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you do know that eating with your hands is sunnat. Our beloved prophet (PBUH) used to eat with his hands, so when you label it as gross, you are unknowingly making fun.

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i seem to always agree with what u say:D

seriously…i always say what u just said above to ppl all the time.

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well the way our desi’s eat with their hands is not the sunnah…desi’s eat with all 4-5 fingers…the sunnah is to use 3 (thumb, index, and middle fingers)

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lol

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Accha my bad then, I'll edit that. But i still maintain that religion is much more mportant than keeping ur culture close and "alive." :)

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Well as long as u realize the mistake n promise not to do it again it’s all gud :slight_smile:

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good info, i didn’t know it in that detail!:slight_smile:

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NBN, good job...keep posting things like that not that girl stuff coz frankly it doesn't look good and people over here not having the experience in sex and relationships will only bash you. Good job again....

My point would be, you are who you are and what you wear, speak, eat is nothing. Always remember your religion, country, family and friends because they are your identity.

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I always believe that the so-called liberal moderate muslims do the opposite of what is happening in the society and call all those people who critise them as extremist.These liberals are basically confused over all the things they do in their lives.Wearing a shalwar kameez would not show one a good pakistani or for that matter a good muslim it is just the regional dress of that area no way related to religion.Our religious dress code is how to dress yourself and obviously what to dress.Eating with fork spoon hands doesnot matter.But following the Sunnah of prophet muhammed is best fo us.Why debate on sunnah when no one follows farz

As far as double standards in our society these liberals become secular when religion is talked about but when something bad happens to them just because they hapen to be muslim they blame the west the christians,jews for descrimination.What suits them is alright and what doesnot suit them is wrong.Double standards for sure

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I agree. I have an Uncle who very tactfully said (in a crowded room full of relatives) “Why don’t you teach your daughter Urdu? Isko Urdu bilkul nay athi, isko sikana chiya, zaroor sikow isko. Upni culture ka putha hona chiya.” He was saying it like I had committed some great sin that he had to correct. Inside I was thinking of all the Urdu speaking people I know who know absolutely nothing about Islam. What use is that language to them? I want my kids to be good Muslims, even English speaking Muslims.

It’s too complicated to go into this White Man is viewed as superior stuff to explain views on culture. Naughty just do your hair the way you want and don’t worry about what anyone says.