and eventhough that info is from a shia website...if u read it thru, it's not at all biased, it's very intellectual
there is no shia sunni bias in that investigation...there are some hadith that are accepted by both shia's and sunni's and some refuted by the shias
coming to abu huraira...can anyone plzzzzzz give me one hadith where he is being complimented...not by himself...but by somene else
mann...at one point u guys aren't ready to accept that the prophet(saw) is masoom-sunni belief...yet in the case of abu huraira...ure ready to say that he could remember 3000+ hadith and not say a word in the time of the first three caliphs.
"There as many ideas in the minds of men and women as there are stars in the sky, it is your job to hold on to one and make it come true"
Anonymous
This thread is about Abu Huraira and his super human memory and not about shia or sunni or any other sect. bashing. Some of us believe that Abu Huraira was a fictional name created by Bokhari to attribute his concoction to Prophet through him and to some extent, it has been successful, as is obvious by some of the posts.
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Originally posted by Mullah_DoPiazza: This thread is about Abu Huraira and his super human memory and not about shia or sunni or any other sect. bashing. Some of us believe that Abu Huraira was a fictional name created by Bokhari to attribute his concoction to Prophet through him and to some extent, it has been successful, as is obvious by some of the posts.
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Its about why the Shia disagree with Abu Huraira, and when we ask this question we will understand that thier religion is based on discrediting most of the personalities of Islam, and nearly all sources of knowledge.
Ali (AS), who was brought up in the home of the Prophet PBUH, who lived with him day and night all his life, and who was married to the daughter of the Prophet PBUH, about whom the Prophet PBUH has said "If I am the city of knowledge, Ali is its gate. The city must be approached through its gate".
It is crystal clear that that Ali (AS) should have been the foremost authority on Hadith, overflowing with Hadith, he should have been the clearest authority on Hadith, abundant in both quantity and quality.
However, an obscure creature like Abu Huraira takes the place of Ali(AS), and further reduces the mention of Ali (AS) to only a handful of places.
Further, Bukhari and others write books upon with hardly any mention of Hadith narrated by Ali.
WHY IS THE GATE OF KNOWLEDGE REDUCED TO NEAR-NOTHINGNESS, while those who were not even close in intellect, experience and wisdom, were elevated to saint level?
Why is Bukhari's book overflowing with Umar, Abu Bakr, Usman, but only the flimsiest mention of Ali?
Not I nor any other Shi'a I know claims any such thing nor would they tolerate any such claim.
These are purely false allegations invented to malign the Shi'as.
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Originally posted by Alpha1:
**Well Mr Jahan, my armour-clad freind,
The Shia have been the ones inventing lies. They have invented a false Sura in the Quran, they have claimed that many Surahs more were revealed. The Shia have lied about many such more things.
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Originally posted by Alpha1:
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Its about why the Shia disagree with Abu Huraira, and when we ask this question we will understand that thier religion is based on discrediting most of the personalities of Islam, and nearly all sources of knowledge.**
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Let's keep shia/sunni discussion out and focus on Abu Huraira, since he has become the narrator of religion for some. Human brain is capable of retaining about 1/5 of what's presented in the immediate future and on the long term, even less. If Abu Huraira was able to remember about 3000+ Hadiths, how many did he forget? That'a a lot of talking with Prophet in those 2-3 years that he was there.
Hazrat Abu Huraira RA didnt have a photographic memory by accident. He used to listen to the Prophet SAW, and would often forget many things that the Prophet SAW would say. Because of that, one day, Hazrat Abu Huraira RA complained about his memory loss to Prophet SAW. Prophet SAW made a specific dua for him right there, and pronounced that from this day on, Abu Huraira would NOT forget anything.
And that is why so many ahadees are narrated by him despite the small amount of time he spent with the Prophet SAW.
If you guys wanna have a shia sunni fight...just do it. Dont make excuses out of revered people like Hazrat Abu Huraira RA in one, Hazrat Aisha RA in another, etc. Those people did not follow any shiasm or any sunnism. They were true muslims and nothing else. We are the ones who are misled.
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Originally posted by Ahl_e_Sunnah:
**do u guys know that in the time of the first three caliphs abu huraira was not allowed to give hadith...
soooo he withheld all that info, 3000+ hadith in his head?
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Thats not true. When Hadrat Omar (RA) started putting hadith together and put a restricted criteria (of a hadith with another 'shahada') Abu Huraira's (RA) hadith were limited. Abu Huraira (RA) was giving hadith during 1st 3 caliphs.
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Originally posted by alizadeh2000:
**Cursed be those who invent lies!
Do not accuse the Shi'a of such monstrosities!
Not I nor any other Shi'a I know claims any such thing nor would they tolerate any such claim.
These are purely false allegations invented to malign the Shi'as.
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Mr 2000, I say AMEEN to your dua. May Allah smite the innovators and liars off the face of this earth. I will say AMEEN to your dua a thousand times.
Inshallah, I will quote your own imams' books with page numbers even.
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Originally posted by Akif:
**Hazrat Abu Huraira RA didnt have a photographic memory by accident. He used to listen to the Prophet SAW, and would often forget many things that the Prophet SAW would say. Because of that, one day, Hazrat Abu Huraira RA complained about his memory loss to Prophet SAW. Prophet SAW made a specific dua for him right there, and pronounced that from this day on, Abu Huraira would NOT forget anything.
And that is why so many ahadees are narrated by him despite the small amount of time he spent with the Prophet SAW.
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This is the funniest thing I have heard so far. Where did you get this from?
I have to document the opinion of one of the Shia Imami Imams about Abu Hurayrah and the Imam’s trust in him. This Imam is the fourth Imam, Zayn Al-A’abideen Ali bin Al-Hussein. Abu Al-Hasan Al-Ardabili narrated in his book “Kashf Al-Ghimmah” that Sa’eed bin Marjanah says: “Once I was with Ali bin Al-Hussein and I said: “I heard Abu Hurayrah saying: “The Messenger of Allah said that whoever frees a believer Allah will free part by part of him from the Hellfire. Even Allah would free a hand by a hand, a leg by a leg, and hole by hole” Ali alayhi al-salam said: “You heard that from Abu Hurayrah?” Sa’eed answered by a yes. Ali bin Al-Hussein said to his slave: “To my most intelligent slave boy -Abdullah bin Jaffar proposed to buy this slave by one thousand Dinar, but Ali bin Al-Hussein refused – you are free for the sake of Allah.” Did you see my dear brother the truth and faithfulness of Abu Huraryah in the eyes of Imam Ali bin Al-Hussein to a degree that the Imam would execute what Abu Hurayrah narrates without hesitation?
Al-Ardabili, “Kashf Al-Ghimmah,” Vol.2 “Virtues of Imam Zayn Al-A’abideen,” p.290