i have recently entered my first serious relationship, and things have gone quite far… ramadan is coming up.. to what extent do we have to refrain during the month of ramadan? just to clarify…
Abstention? are you two extending your abs to such an angle that it's creating tension?. Well Ramadan or SHaabaan, too much flexing can cause tension in the abs area.
And here I was thinking that cherry-picking season began after marriage. 
its all good after sundown 
Not trying to be rude or anything, but isn't it kinda oxymoronic to be worried about Ramadan, while in a pre-marital (physical?) relationship?
^ Not only that, does she not care to leave SOME information private rather than divulging and building negative images of her in people's minds?
^Could the pot get any blacker says the kettle
True.
Faisal, you are assuming the "physical relationship" part. No where did she mention sex. She said things are getting quiet far. It could be a mental thing.
I didn't assume anything, and that is why I put a question-mark there. She knows what she is doing (or she should know). It seems she'd like to have her cake and eat it too. And that, frankly, is not a very appealing thought in the present case.
We all have our opinions on premarital anything, so please let's not gang up on her. Whatever she is doing I'm sure is being handled as she sees it appropriate. Who are we to say anything? More power to her if she wants to be a little bit unconventional and liberal. It's her life. I just hope she is careful.
SP, nobody is ganging up on her. She asked a question and to be honest, I am a bit confused as how to answer it. I can't tell her "yeah, it's Ok you can do it after iftaar and until sehri". It just doesn't sound right, na?
Precisely...she can do whatever she likes. Its just that the question is oxymoronic... Its like someone comes to you and asks "hey! I just robbed this old lady, and now I have 50,000 bucks... how much zakat I need to pay on this?" ... Like "duh!!!"
Faisal, the answer to your question is simple. No zakat until a year passes by without you him/her spending it.
for your kind info guys, it has nothing to do with sex... but seeing as ramadan is about clean minds and bodies, maybe we shouldnt even see each other if lusty thoughts would enetr the head.
but thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt, not!!
Your question was vague enough (serious relationship, gone quite far?), but that as it may be, pre-marital relationships between a guy and a girl are generally frowned upon, per se. So sex is not the sole deciding factor here. Even if we insist sex has nothing to do with it, and the "lusty thoughts" are about something else.
Anyway, you are right. Ramadan is probably the right time to rein in these thoughts and the relationship.
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^ Not only that, does she not care to leave SOME information private rather than divulging and building negative images of her in people's minds?
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lol/.. look who's talking missy..
^ maine kya kiya hai? 
"sweetpie ^ Not only that, does she not care to leave SOME information private rather than divulging and building negative images of her in people's minds? "
???? no need, i think.....