Re: Abey O Junaid Jamshed, Zalim !
even haqooq al ibaad?
even if we dont discuss it in the context of junade, from whatI have been told a tauba without an attempt to undo the ills one has caused is not really a sincere tauba. btw does tauba have to be done publically? or can one do secret tauba and be absolved of sins?
and its not just tauba, doesn't it make sense to go back and fix something if your tauba is really sincere. I actually talked to various scholars on this topic .. not for Junade but for myself.. If I have done something that hurt someone or impacted someone, even if I do tauba I shoudl really go back and try to fix things, and try to make it right.
also what if one continues to do something that is wrong after doign tauba?
an example would be lets just say u and i are business partners, I embezzle all your money and take off, u lose your house, your livelihood everything. while I am living like a king. a few years later I find God, I go do hajj umrah and tauba, but I have built an empire from the illgotten money, and you contiue to languish in poverty and I say hey I dont need to do anything, I am forgiven because i repented. somehow does not seem right.
actually there are 3 points here, las one I had not brought up because this had been a light hearted thread.
1) selling stuff that is not allowed, I mean unless he is only selling silk kurtas to non muslims, but that takes me back to discussions on this site about sellign alcohol but to non muslims or pork products only to non muslims.. but i guess there is no argument in this thread thus far.
2)Junade may have done Tauba, but had he approached the artists whose music his band stole, they would have asked for royalty. they did not get that royalty, so he owes them that..
3) most tableeghis consider music haram, he built his business based on money that was made from music. Now n this site ppl have said that if you mke money from haram means, lottery, gambling whatever, you can not really use it, and if you give it away, dont expec sawaab, but do give it away. I can give him benefit of doubt that the business was started from other money that did not come from his music earnings, although the store was created while he was still singing so that is unlikely. anyways, if we give him the benefit of the doubt that the store was from non music money, then teh store is fine but he needs to give up everything he has procured from music (read: haram) income.