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[LP]

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@muqawwee123

Alfaaz ke maani Jumle ke sayaq o sabaaq main pata chalte hain. ‘Main’ is not always bad, but if that leads to arrogance than it is worst.

Makkah gayan
Gal mukdi nahin
Paven sau sau jummen padhaiye

Ganga gayan
Gal mukdi nahin
Paven sau sau gothey khaiye

Gaya gayan
Gal mukdi nahin
Paven sau sau panD padhaiye

Bulleh Shah!
Gal taiyon mukdi
jadoN ‘meiN’ nu diloN gawaaiye

Main is not always bad ? So you mean it is bad at times…
Cant hum be followed by attitude ?
Mai is I…hum is we … since when is I compared to we bad ?

[KKF]

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saRak chhaap vo zabaan hotii hai jo saRkoN parGhair ta’leem yaafta aur Ghair tahzeeb yaafta log bolte haiN.

[muqawwee123]

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@Little Princess

Samjhane walay pe depend krta hai

Allama KKF ki mu’allimana salahiyaton ko challenge.

waise Allama ke end pe gol taa aati hai, per Allama Mo’anus nahin… Gol taa shiddat ko bayan kar rahi hai… Ilm ki shiddat ki waja se aise logon ko Allama kaha gaya hai :halo:

[LP]

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@muqawwee123

Not according to set standards

Thanks

[LP]

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@muqawwee123

Allama KKF ki mu’allimana salahiyaton ko challenge.

waise Allama ke end pe gol taa aati hai, per Allama Mo’anus nahin… Gol taa shiddat ko bayan kar rahi hai… Ilm ki shiddat ki waja se aise logon ko Allama kaha gaya hai :halo:

han ji…open challenge

[LP]

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Btw bulleh shah k poem nai samajh aye

[KKF]

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@muqawwee123

Allama KKF ki mu’allimana salahiyaton ko challenge.

waise Allama ke end pe gol taa aati hai, per Allama Mo’anus nahin… Gol taa shiddat ko bayan kar rahi hai… Ilm ki shiddat ki waja se aise logon ko Allama kaha gaya hai :halo:

hahaha…baareekii hai…baat meN vazan hai!

[muqawwee123]

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@Little Princess

Main is not always bad ? So you mean it is bad at times…
Cant hum be followed by attitude ?
Mai is I…hum is we … since when is I compared to we bad ?

Main is individualistic approach.. Hum is collective. When you are used to use Hum, you always convey a message that you appreciate teamwork.. Hum ne ye kia, hum ye kar sakte hain sounds positive than Maine ye kia, ain ye kar sakta hoon…

[muqawwee123]

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@Little Princess

Btw bulleh shah k poem nai samajh aye

TP main post kar ke samajh len

[LP]

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@muqawwee123

Main is individualistic approach.. Hum is collective. When you are used to use Hum, you always convey a message that you appreciate teamwork.. Hum ne ye kia, hum ye kar sakte hain sounds positive than Maine ye kia, ain ye kar sakta hoon…

I understand its a personal choice to use mai or hum.
But I honestly don’t get why view it in that way ? Why see mai as ana parast when its grammatically correct ? Jub single person ne kiya hai…acha ya bura kaam…tou mai isstemal krne mai kaunsi ana parasti ?

[muqawwee123]

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@Little Princess

I understand its a personal choice to use mai or hum.
But I honestly don’t get why view it in that way ? Why see mai as ana parast when its grammatically correct ? Jub single person ne kiya hai…acha ya bura kaam…tou mai isstemal krne mai kaunsi ana parasti ?

Its usage in different situations make it bad… not necessarily egoist all the times… Basically ‘Main’ is not negative until it is used in the sense ‘Main hi’

[LP]

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@muqawwee123

Its usage in different situations make it bad… not necessarily egoist all the times… Basically ‘Main’ is not negative until it is used in the sense ‘Main hi’

This makes sense…but any term…even hum can be used in an egoistic manner.
So why the bias with mai…why look down at people who use mai instead of hum which is even grammatically more correct.

[KKF]

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@Little Princess

This makes sense…but any term…even hum can be used in an egoistic manner.
So why the bias with mai…why look down at people who use mai instead of hum which is even grammatically more correct.

look down nahiiN…maiN to vo explain kar rahaa thaa jo hamaare ilaaqe meN aur shaahi maHloN meN bolaa jaataa thaa. if you lived in Lucknow area you would know what i am talking about…Khair

[muqawwee123]

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@Little Princess

This makes sense…but any term…even hum can be used in an egoistic manner.
So why the bias with mai…why look down at people who use mai instead of hum whuch is even grammatically more correct.

who is looking down those people. Its general practice and considered part of adab o aadaab in some cultures

[LP]

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[LP]

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@muqawwee123

who is looking down those people. Its general practice and considered part of adab o aadaab in some cultures

Isn’t this looking down ?(im not saying kkf is looking down…just using wht he told to show that people do look down)

hamaarii dehaatii zabaan meN “HAM” nahiiN hai…vahaN sirf “maiN” hai aur ham aksar mazaaqan “maiN” kahne waale dostoN se kahaa karte the k bhai chaamaaroN aur paasiyoN waali zabaan na bolaa karo!

[KKF]

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@LP

oh…i see…i do NOT look down on people who say “maiN”…Canada aane ke ba’d to maiN nhii “maiN” hii use kartaa huN…

[KKF]

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@Little Princess

Isn’t this looking down ?(im not saying kkf is looking down…just using wht he told to show that people do look down)

LP, chamaaroN aur paasiyoN waali zabaan na bolaa karo kaa yeh matlab to nahiiN liyaa thaa maiN ne…maiN ne to yeh kahaa thaa k chuN k vohii log [hamaare ilaaqe meN] “maiN” use karte haiN is liye vo alfaaz na use karo…matlab i was identifying it rather than ridiculing it…

…yeh to aise hii huaa k koii kahe k gheTTo waali zabaan na use karo…iskaa matlab identify karnaa huaa na k ridicule karnaa.
**
sorry if i unknowingly/unintentionally hurt your feelings!**

[LP]

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@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

LP, chamaaroN aur paasiyoN waali zabaan na bolaa karo kaa yeh matlab to nahiiN liyaa thaa maiN ne…maiN ne to yeh kahaa thaa k chuN k vohii log [hamaare ilaaqe meN] “maiN” use karte haiN is liye vo alfaaz na use karo…matlab i was identifying it rather than ridiculing it…

…yeh to aise hii huaa k koii kahe k gheTTo waali zabaan na use karo…iskaa matlab identify karnaa huaa na k ridicule karnaa.
**
sorry if i unknowingly/unintentionally hurt your feelings!**

Its a discussion…exchanging views … so no…you did not hurt my feelings.

[KKF]

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@Little Princess

Its a discussion…exchanging views … so no…you did not hurt my feelings.

EXACTLY! thanx