Aale Sharif's Metro Bus is a stolen project of Musharraf-allied PMLQ

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PMLQ did all detailed studies on Lahore Metro train GREEN Line project. But at the time of implementation he lost power.
Then came the ShowBaz. This narrow-minded Sharifia didn’t want to give any credit to PMLQ. So he turned the Green line project in SUBOPTIMAL metro bus project.

Now ShowBaz had a new ‘farmaishi program’. He wants ORANGE line metro train project. But the cost is exorbitant. How are they going to pay the Chinese loan?
Ethnically biased as they are, the duo financed metro bus by compromising development projects from Pakistan, such as Karachi Circular Railway project. They will probably do the same with Metro train.
Plus there are usual methods of course. Such as higher taxes and increased inflation, increased unemployment. This should be a point to ponder for those other prejudiced individuals who would otherwise care less about stealing money from rest of the country to develop Raiwind.

Read following analysis carefully. Still there will be Sharifiay who would be foolishly throwing thumbs up signs everywhere.

True that Pakistan people deserve the abysmal state of being they are right no now. True that they deserves monkeys like Aale Sharif.

KHUDA MEHERBAN - GADHA PEHELWAN.

Is Orange Line worth the cost? | Business Recorder
June 24, 2014 BR Research

Back when the Chaudhrys of Gujrat were ruling Punjab (2002-07), a modern mass transit system was planned with special coverage of major commercial and residential corridors in a phased manner. The plan was to have four lines, with 7 interchange stations of independent transit systems connecting the city.

Green line is already in place (the 27-km long Metro Bus System {MBS} route) though in a different shape from initial plans. Then Punjab government under Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi had spent billions of rupees on detailed engineering studies and designs for an underground train system on the green line. But by the time of implementation, he was no longer in power.

**Shahbaz Sharifs team rather implemented the MBS project which, according to a senior architect, was a suboptimal solution. Partisan critics suggest that Sharif did not want the projects credit to go to Elahi and PML-Q. So he replaced the train with bus. **

In its second consecutive tenure, PML-N is brave enough to execute the “Orange Line” metro train system, as per earlier plans of the PML-Q government. The route will be 27-km long, connecting Lahore railway station Chauburji and a few other congested areas.

But, the projects cost is exorbitant. Unlike Lahore MBS, the Orange Line projects cost was too high for the government to execute from the development budget. The Rs30 billion MBS spending was possible by compromising projects across the province. But, there is no way Punjab government can raise Rs160 billion internally within two years on a train system facilitating one-fourth of Lahore.

Thats why the Punjab government is building this $1.6 billion project in 27 months with the loan of Chinese counterpart. The project is expected to start by December this year and is to be completed by March 2017.

BR Research attempted to find the projects operational feasibility and came up with a break even fare per passenger at Rs171 as compared to Rs65 for MBS. By keeping the ticket at same price of that of metro bus (Rs20), annual subsidy of train system will be a whopping Rs14 billion in todays value. On the other hand, government is spending mere Rs2-2.5 billion per year on metro bus from its pocket.

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Shehbaz is doing great.. I am non political person, but facts are facts..

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Khoji is right that it was PML-Q who did all the detailed studies.

If anyone wants any evidence i can give that.

The Company i work for was asked to bid on the Project Management for the AFC System (Automated Fare Collection) to be installed for the usage of the Metro.

Once i went through the feasibility Study/report it was quite obvious the Report was ordered and completed during the tenure of PML-Q.

The last date to bid for the tender was the 21st April 2014.

Due to Security concerns i advised my company not to enter into the bidding process.

If anyone wants to have a look at this report send me ur eMail Address.

Anyone who is remotely related to Public Transportation knows that Rail bound transportation in urban areas is usualy twice if not thrice as expensive as Road bound solutions. There is less flexibility, maintenance expenses are higher, fleet upgrade and most notably infrastructure upgrades are expensive.

The Pro's for Rail bound solutions are that you can move masses in short time over a greater distance.

Ideally for a city of the size such as Lahore the situation should be like this:
- Rail bound solutions along 4-5 Major roads with high volume of traffic

- Feeder Buses from the Periphery with a high frequency with dedicated tracks/lanes and Proirity at crossings to feed the Metro/Rail

But to have a Metrobus along a main road and to take away precious space and spend huge sums of money is not very wise but then we are atlking about Pakistan ..... :(

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True, it was idiotic to start metro bus. They wanted to show something for the elections. It should have always been rail based solution but that would have taken longer. Anyways, something is better than nothing.

I’ve been hearing about feasibility studies for LRMT since 1990s. There were studies done in Benazir’s second government as well. “Orange Line” and “Green Lines” were identified in those days.

Lahore Rapid Mass Transit Rail - Railway Technology

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I have debunked this before. 90% of funding for KCR was approved by JICA with politics in the city delaying the project.

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It’s a side issue. So I don’t want to get into too much of it. Except to say that JICA cannot give this loan-cum-grant unless guarantees from the federal government. Clearing encroachment should be the least difficult issue as compared to things like financing.

Besides, that was just one example. The article in brecorder says that development funds from other projects on Pakistan were used. So obviously there were more than just one project of KCR which was compromised. What this article said about development funds was also one of the complaints of Qaim Ali Shah.

Qaim blasts Centre for ignoring mega projects

Finally, my point was not about KCR as much as it was about Shahbaz using PMLQ’s and Musharrf’s project. A lot is said by Sharifiay about how good ShowBaz is for the province. But they ignore how PMLQ and Musharraf were building the whole country, including Punjab. They had long term planning for the country, for example REAL emphasis on eduction, like HEC, instead of just distributing laptops (compare the IQ level).

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Buddy, I am not right or wrong. I am just the informer. It is the Business Recorder research team that is right.

Interesting to read your account.

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Lo ji. Baat khatam. Hum bilawaja behes kar rahe hein. To bus Phir mitti pao.
Let's talk about the pious terrorists of Islam, Haqqanis rehmatullah aleh.

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After 18th amendment to the constitution, guarantees from federal government are no more needed.

That is not true. The article says: "The Rs30 billion MBS spending was possible by compromising projects across the province."

Province, not Pakistan. I am sure it would have benefited the country as a whole if smaller Punjabi cities were developed instead of concentrating Lahore only. Punjab's budget's spending, however, does not effect other provinces' development budget. Qaim Ali Shah can eat up Sindh's budget on 'creating government jobs' [and later selling them] for jiyalas but would still cry on.

At least he is doing something, unlike CMs of KP and Sindh who are just doing opposition for the sake of it.

Yes, I would agree that laptop scheme is the most bizarre waste public money. There must be strong opposing voice against it. Imagine how many rural schools could have been upgraded with this money.

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This is a reality that during Pervaiz illahi's regime the development was carried out through out the province. Local government system was introduced which delivered, 1122, traffic police reforms, educational institutes were created, new hospitals, Punjab Industrial estates (PIE) and so on. Shahbaz Sharif does not come close.

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haqqanis are not terrorists. They do not kill innocent civillians. As far as this thread is concerned, why u guys always critisize Shebaz. Atleast , unlike other CMs, he is doing something, kuch na hony say, kuch hona behtar ha,

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At least he is doing something, unlike CMs of KP and Sindh who are just doing opposition for the sake of it.
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This is a very misleading statement. The CM of KPK as well the Cabinet staff are not active contributors in any mainstream opposition led by PTI.

It is also extremely misleading to draw broad brush comparison between politicians who have been serving in big positions for decades and effectively serving as third time Chief Ministers to be compared with an year old coalition government with relatively novice cabinet members. Not that it makes KPK government any inferior, but the point is most of the major infrastructure developments signed by the KPK are due to be completed within next 1-3 year time frame.

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What is extremely ridiculous is that PMLN that claims that it is a Federation with a heavy mandate comes on TV channels and talks like a desperate attention hungry Provincial Government. We have done this for Punjab, we have done that Punjab. (When were you ever out of power or influence in Punjab? And the discussion is clearly about Pakistan, not Punjab) I fail to see the logic in seeing PMLN as just another 'provisional government', they were a provisional government last time as well, and? Does anyone see anything wrong with how a popular Federation still brands itself as an aloof provisional party?

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Yep, that's pathetic and in bad taste.

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lekin phir bhi chatnay walay chat-tay hi rahayn gai aur doosron ke projects PMLN ke "projects" bana ke GS pe paish kartay rahyn gai ;)

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Big deal eh!. So what if this was started by Tonga party and carried on by SS. Not a big deal. However all schemes of SS have failed in past 'yellow cab', 'Sasti roti', 'free lap top' etc., this scheme is also bound to fail hitting hard on national exchequer, a lot of money is contributed by Sindh and Baluchistan.

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Parha likha Punjab!