Aafia Siddiqui Forced to Walk Naked Over the Qur’an

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Very well said.

Jihadists love to quote Amnesty international. Even though the most AI says as per Boston Globe article of 2008 is:

Amnesty International listed Siddiqui as possibly among the "ghost prisoners" held in secret by the US government.

Nowhere it is claimed for sure that US had her in custody,

Or

nowhere it is clearly proven that Pak gov handed her over to US custody.

She was like many other US/UK settled Jihadis who ended up doing Jihad in Afghanistan.

She not only is Jihadi but also endangered her kids by taking them along to AFghanistan.

Just to spite her ex-husband.

What a shameless lady.

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Of course the people on GS are right. But Amnesty International that has specialists, experts and academics are wrong. So obvious how could I have not seen it?

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sad

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okay after reading the whole thread and reading 2 different opinions/fact/whatchumaycallit i myself am confused as to what part is true, but whatever the truth is it is a sad thing.

However guys we can have all these discussions in a decent manner without calling each other names, please be considerate and respectful :k:

Regards,

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exact quote from the "Amnesty International that has specialists, experts and academics" please!

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both imran khan and yvone ridley have put their names on the line to say afia was prisoner 650, and thats enough for me to believe she was. given all the other circumstances we all can conclude this is a fact

i trust them two personalities alot more then amnesty because at the end of the day, ive not heard amnesty condemn the wrongs of the last 10 years loud enough. do they even have a truely independent voice?

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And why are Imran and ridely not talking about keeping afia's kid from his biological father?

Why Imran and ridely not challenging daaaktar Afia's uncle who says that the boy returned from Afghanistan is not even her son?

All this shoro-Ghogha-ghul-ghupara is up only for Afia, Where is your humanity when it comes to the kids?

And no body asks her, her uncle, or her charlatan sis and mum where are the kids.

Why Afia is mum about them?

Why did she take them along on the Jihadi trip to the hell hole called Afghainstan.

Off course you all are mum.

Because that will not disgrace Pakistan's name,

instead the light will be on Jihadis.

So you are all quiet as a mouse.

Shabash.

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heres one for the name of pakistan

MOST PAKISTANIS WILL NEVER FORGET THEIR SISTER DR AFIA

you can sniff around our sell-outs as much as you want

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AMEEN BROTHER. PAKISTANIS ARE NOT COWARDS. THEY DO NOT SELL OUT TO THE KUFFAR. SHAME ON THEM.

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You have the link. They say it. FBI supported the claims of the Boston Globe and then retracted. And you want to listen to the chacha. :rolleyes:

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FBI have jihadist tendencies or so I "feel"... therefore their word does not count!

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No no those who confirmed it were Jihadi supporters. But the ones the retracted were the true FBI.

Oh no wait, the Boston Globe lied.

Better yet someone the News joined the Boston Globe to spread Jihadi support.

I bet Posh spice would sleep better after this post.

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i guess same on you, answer her questions if you have an answer.

spreading propaganda without proof, reality of this drama of aafia siddiqui is yet to be proven there are testimonies of her husband and uncle in islamabad which says she was in islamabad during her perceived kidnapping jamatis and other identical pro talib forces including hamid mir and others.

with that i do think her trial was farce as well but if someone tell me she was innocent lady and was picked up without any reason give me a break.

she conspired against a country where she got higher education , lived there fed her children...

i do hate US policy as much as you do but i refuse to belive otherside blindly just because we hate US policy.

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Yeah you believe uncle but not the FBI that confirmed the information. Talk about jahils. :rolleyes:

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we were made fools on lal masjid drama everybody talks about people who got killed in mosque whereas plenty of time was given to leave and it was full of weapons(that wasnt mosque anyway) but no body talks about 23 innocent sould who got killed few days earlier outside lal masjid…

as someone quoted wikipedia and i am also quoting it..

what about children.
who is balouchi.
why we shouldnt belive her husband.
where are children.
answer the questions.

this lady was used before by alqaeda and is being used again, i feel sorry for her she left her career for this lunatics.

Sister and mother assert Siddiqui detained by Pakistan and U.S.

"Lady Al-Qaeda"[41]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afia_Siddiqui#cite_note-.3Baq-40)

—Headline reference to Siddiqui in New York Daily News

[RIGHT] “Prisoner 650”[42]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afia_Siddiqui#cite_note-sten-41)

[/RIGHT]
[RIGHT]—Headline reference to Siddiqui in Tehran Times[/RIGHT]

Siddiqui’s sister and mother said that she does not have any connections to al-Qaeda, and that after she disappeared in Pakistan in March 2003 with her three children, the U.S. detained her secretly in Afghanistan. They point to comments by former Bagram Air Base, Afghanistan, detainees who say they believe a woman held at the prison while they were there was Siddiqui.[34]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) Her sister said that Siddiqui had been raped, and tortured for five years.[43]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[44]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)
According to Yvonne Ridley, best known for her capture by the Taliban and subsequent conversion to Islam after her release, Siddiqui spent those years in solitary confinement at Bagram as Prisoner 650. And Amnesty International listed her as possibly being a “ghost prisoner” held by the U.S.[21]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)
Siddiqui herself gave conflicting explanations. She alternately claimed that she had been kidnapped by U.S. intelligence and Pakistani intelligence, while also claiming that she was working for Pakistani intelligence during this time.[45]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) Siddiqui reportedly said that she worked at the Karachi Institute of Technology in 2005, was in Afghanistan in the winter of 2007, stayed for a time during her disappearance in Quetta, Pakistan, and was sheltered by various people.[46]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)
edit] Ex-husband, uncle, son, and U.S. assert Siddiqui in Pakistan

According to her ex-husband, after the global alert for her was issued Siddiqui went into hiding, and worked for al-Qaeda.[20]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[29]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[47]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) During her disappearance Khan said he saw her at Islamabad airport in April 2003, as she disembarked from a flight with their son, and said he helped Inter-Services Intelligence identify her. He said he again saw her two years later, in a Karachi traffic jam.[20]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[30]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) In February 2009, he told a Pakistani newspaper that most of the claims in Pakistani press reports related to her and their children were being propagated to garner public support and sympathy for her, but that they were one-sided and in most instances untrue.[29]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)
Siddiqui’s maternal uncle, Shams ul-Hassan Faruqi, said that on January 22, 2008, she visited him in Islamabad.[20]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[30]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) She said she had been held by Pakistani agencies, and asked for his help in order to cross into Afghanistan, where she thought she would be safe in the hands of the Taliban.[20]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[30]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) He had worked in Afghanistan, and made contact with the Taliban in 1999, but told her he was no longer in touch with them. He notified his sister, Siddiqui’s mother, who came the next day to see her daughter. He said that Siddiqui stayed with them for two days.[48]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) Her uncle has signed an affidavit swearing to these facts.[13]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)
Her son Ahmad, who was arrested with her, said he and Siddiqui had worked in an office in Pakistan, collecting money for poor people, and were later dispatched with maps and documents to Afghanistan, according to an Afghan intelligence official in the Ministry of the Interior.[49]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) He told Afghan investigators that on August 14, 2008, they had traveled by road from Quetta, Pakistan, to Afghanistan.[13]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)
An Afghan intelligence official said he believes that Siddiqui was working with Jaish-e-Mohammed (the "Army of Muhammad), a Pakistani Islamic mujahedeen military group that fights in Kashmir and Afghanistan.[49]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)
The U.S. government said it did not hold Siddiqui during that time period, and had no knowledge of her whereabouts from March 2003 until July 2008.[50]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) Dean Boyd, a (United States Department of Justice - Wikipedia) spokesman, called the allegations “absolutely baseless and false”, a Central Intelligence Agency spokesman also denied that she had been detained by the U.S., and Gregory Sullivan, a State Department spokesman, said: “For several years, we have had no information regarding her whereabouts whatsoever. It is our belief that she … has all this time been concealed from the public view by her own choosing.”[21]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) Assistant U.S. Attorney David Raskin said in 2008 that U.S. agencies had searched for evidence to support allegations that Siddiqui was detained in 2003, and held for years, but found zero evidence that Ms. Siddiqui was abducted, kidnapped, tortured, anything we hear repeatedly. I have found not a shred of evidence those allegations are true. A more plausible inference is that she went into hiding because people around her started to get arrested, and at least two of those people ended up at Guantanamo Bay.[51]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)
According to some U.S. officials, she went underground after the FBI alert for her was issued, and was at large working on behalf of al-Qaeda.[20]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[29]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[47]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)
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Second husband,
Ammar al-Baluchi

edit] Re-marriage

When she was arrested in 2008, she told FBI agents that she had re-married, her second husband being accused al-Qaeda member Ammar al-Baluchi.[10]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[31]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) He is also known as Ali Abdul Aziz Ali, and is a nephew of al-Qaeda leader Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.[31]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[45]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) He is also a cousin of Ramzi Yousef, who was convicted of the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center.[31]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[45]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[52]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)
She had worked with al-Baluchi in opening a P.O. box for Majid Kahn, and says she married him in March or April 2003.[9]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[11]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[53]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) He was arrested on April 29, 2003, and taken to the Guantanamo Bay military prison, where he is in U.S. custody.[31]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) He faces the death penalty in his upcoming trial in the U.S., for aiding the 9/11 hijackers.[49]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)
Siddiqui’s marriage to al-Baluchi was denied by her family. But it was confirmed by Pakistani intelligence, the FBI, Siddiqui herself (according to court records),[20]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) a defense psychologist,[54]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) and security sources and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s family (according to BBC).[55]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)
** Children**

Siddiqui’s eldest son, Ahmad, resurfaced with her in 2008.[49]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) He now lives with his aunt in Karachi, who has prohibited him from talking to the press.[20]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[49]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)
Siddiqui has not explained clearly what happened to her two younger children, who are missing.[45]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) She told one FBI agent that sometimes one has to take up a cause that is more important than one’s children.[46]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) She has alternated between saying that the two youngest children are dead, and that they are with her sister Fowzia.[10]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)
Siddiqui’s ex-husband has unsuccessfully sought custody of their eldest son.[13]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[29]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia) He believes that the missing children are in Karachi, either with or in contact with Siddiqui’s family, and not in U.S. detention.[13]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[29]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[56]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afia_Siddiqui#cite_note-55) He says that they were seen in her sister’s house in Karachi and in Islamabad on several occasions since their alleged disappearance in 2003.[13]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)[29]](Aafia Siddiqui - Wikipedia)
edit] Arrest

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Shame on the PPP and its allies for pursuing this same policy!

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What are the facts established in this case?

*Do people believe Jihadis who have a mission in life which is to destroy America OR do people believe American accounts and its allies knowing full well they have LIED to invade Iraq and control the media and WHAT WE READ? *

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Yeap. one can clearly see the sellouts who sold their souls and bodies to Qaida terrorists, and as a result suicide bombing and burning down Pakistan.

These sellouts bomb the girls schools
These sellouts kill our police officers
These sellout suiciders have attacked and killed our officer and jawans.

Down with the jahaunnumi sellouts.

Down with them.

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your right, its impossible to seperate the iraq bludgenings to the afghan genocide, and true to that form is this afia propaganda. theres two parrallel campaigns running of her disappearance. but anybody with an understanding of how to differentiate between fact and fiction can seperate the two campaigns.

because she was being missed, her captors let her out (albeit without her kids) to make it look like she was infact free the whole time. her tormentors claim she is part of a terror network, but deny isi would pick her up and SELL her as they sold others with similar allegations on them. btw actual accused of her abduction is IB not isi.

and finally her trial and charges against her were proof of whats been going on.
catch up on facts: Off the Record – 4 February 2010 | Pakistan Politics

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Hopefully you have read #55 and now have

either understood the facts

or have some specific comments on the presented evidence.