Rukhsar — Perhaps we all need to hit the dictionary! I like to see various definitions, and I like to concentrate on what seems to be true not just in my opinion but in the opinion of others too. Esp those women who are described by such words. I frankly dont see a reason for us to sit in our little boxes and stick with just our own opinions/definitions . I think its nice to know how others think and why others think in that particular way.
ghuLail – But I like to start such threads. Arey arey aasliyat ajaati hai, achi baat hai. Wasay mera dimaagh haan…aaj thora sa kharab hai!
If you're a woman, you need to decide what you want for yourself out of your life. and stick with it, trying not to mind what others say about you. cause we're dammed if we do, dammed if we dont, know what i mean?
Im educated and had a lucrative career that i willingly gave up so that i could be home with my babies. docs, teachers and just about everyone else who we have to deal with assume that i'm at home because i cant get job that would pay enough to cover the cost of childcare ie., that i'm uneducated and dumb. very annoying.
even so, i'd not give up being with my babies. i am blessed to be able to stay home with them, i never forget that. yeah so we may do without some of the so-called luxuries of life but my boys have mama at home and taking care of them and that makes them happy and feeling secure. thats priceless...everyone else who decides to make assumptions can kiss our collective butts!!!!
M_Q - I may hold a job, speak my mind, and have some radical thoughts as to freedom and religion, but basically in my personal life, I am super traditional.
My husband is the boss (as uncool as that is these days). He makes the final decisions and I abide by them. I trust him absolutely and I trust that if I don't agree with him, it is because that he sees something that I don't in a situation. 9 times out of 10 that is what it is. I work because I am allowed to and it does not interfer with my other primary duty (taking care of my children).
But this is my choice - to allow the man I married to have that say over myself. He always asks my opinion and in some areas will defer to me, but only because I may be more knowledgeable in them or, in the case of some of my family, better able to deal with them :)
Who cares what others think, why let anyone define what you are and what you are looking for? This is my choice and what I need, who cares what name defines that. Traditionalist, slave, dumb, whatever.....
I am this way because I had the choice and chose it, so I am happy. I think if I had no choice and I was forced to be this way perhaps I may think the grass is greener some other way.
Define yourself and make yourself happy. If that means a "traditional" role then do it, if it means education and self-sufficiency first then do it.
Isn't the word traditional too broad to be labeled at any person? Just like conservative, liberal, rich or poor are also terms very relative to the conversation.
Just the other day one of my openly Republican friend told me how he views himself as a liberal, to which I replied that other than his waistline, nothing about him can be considered liberal. He wasn't amused.
wow, zalim, the traditional woman sure sounds ominous and evil in your book! Please tell, exactly what is it that traditional women conspire about? with whom are they conspiring?
Zalim believes they are all out to capture him and force a ring on his pretty little finger forever shutting out all the may-have-beens and possibly-could-haves, the evil little traditionalistic conspiracy mavens have had this plan since he hit puberty.
minah the point is not that you believe certain things and choose a certain lifestyle, it was more about anouncing it to the world for the benifit of making one feel better, and prooving little somthigns to someone else......
That is the stereotype. However basically it in my eyes has to do with the family setting and a woman opting not to get a job and be "independent". That is the whole thing. It is important to be equal to men and be indepedent. That women don't need men and don't need to be dependent.
What these people fail to realise is that everybody is dependent on someone. They just take gender stereotypes to a new level where they want to be seen as what is fashionable and "cool" regardless of what they personally believe.
To view something in a stereotype is to conform into a mind set of the average person. To define someone by stereotypes is to be a retard.
I didn't bother reading thru the whole thread, sorry.
MQ: There is a big difference between traditional and religious. Traditional is an adjective - the root is "tradition". So "traditional" is relative to the culture we're talking about.
A traditional Pakistani woman is very different from a religious Pakistani woman. You'd think they should be the same, but well, no. They're not.
Now who said a traditional pakistani woman is different than a religious one? After all religion esp. Islam is the heaviest influence in our culture. To be traditional in Pakistan is to be religious and that applies to all stereotypes.
After all why do you think the worlds, traditional, conservative and religious are used together and inter-changably.
