Re: A time of peace between India and Pakistan
I have noticed that many posters have no love or India at all, they hope for the breakdown of India they wish for war between India and China hoping such a war would destroy India. They refuse to accept any offer of help as genuine. I wonder if some posters are so consumed in their anger for all things Indians that they are constantly seeking something to justiy their hatred.
In India there are many people like that too, they hate Pakistan. In India there are people who would like to see Pakistan fail, they would like to see Pakistan broken up into smaller states. They would like to see Pakistan remain in poverty and fall into religious ciil war.
But there are also the same kind of people in Pakistan who also bear such ill will to India. These hate filled men share the same traits as each other.
They busy themselves into destroying each other but do not see that while hatching plots to hurt their neighbour that they are infact neglecting their own home where poverty is rampant and not ending.
India and Pakistan need to learn to live together and like brothers which we once did. We are all aware of stories regarding partition attrocities, but there was also a time where Sikh, Hindu and Muslim villagers would live together and help one another. When a bharat of wedding guests would come to a village and the whole community would pay a part, when there were festivals and people who prepare meals for their neighbours regardless o religion. Of course there was violence during partition but there was also protection, many risked the wrath of their own communities to protect those of other faiths, they did their bit and followed their religion when everyone around them was committing grave sins in the name of their God.
It is up to us to shape the future of our nations, we can look at the mutual distrust and assume the glass is half empty or we can see the brightness and try to fill the half full glass and build better relations so we can both enjoy a better, richer and more prosperous future for us all......
......And inshallah I think we will!!!
Bravo to your heart warming rhetoric regarding Pakistani hatred against India, I can understand your choice of soft words just out of your love for your country however you seem to be bias when it comes to Pakistan.
As a Pakistani I love my Pakistan with all my heart nevertheless I do not expect an Indian to love my Pakistan yet I do admire their love for their respective country.
Since you are here to explore "Pakistani Hatred" against India and to find out why Pakistanis do not "LOVE" India...
Let me make it easier for you.
I would not paper over the cracks here ----- yet try to look at underlying cause and effect.
Cause and effect:
Cause: There has always been boorishness in Indian media against Pakistan, perhaps just for the rating purposes or to stay competitive by showing their super patriotism to the general public in India.
Effect: I can safely postulate that you have already witnessed Indian media boorishness against Pakistan, as a matter of fact your thread is a clear indication of said boorishness.
Clearly and understandably Indian public seem to be in step with these media embellishments against Pakistan ----- consider this ----- the first unambiguous break step that needs to be taken by India is to ward off this erroneous and uninvited propaganda against Pakistan from its media and I am almost certain that it is not going to be tranquil in a sense that there absolutely be scores of Indians who wouldn’t want this effort to substantiate an air of trust to be successful, in addition to the opposition and defiance these hardcore fundamentalist elements might try to create commotion on Pakistani side yet, India must suppress these tumultuous elements in order to achieve long term peace and harmony with Pakistan, moreover I do understand that this change might take years or even decades to achieve nevertheless India must not only ingrain this change in the society yet adapt to it religiously...
Cause: South Asia expert Stephen Cohen of Washington’s Brookings Institution recently told his audience in a speech.
"Any nation that has faced Indian intelligence’s covert war followed by an outright invasion to divide it can not be told to ignore that threat."
Effect: Pakistani mistrust against India.
What are your thoughts and comments on above statement by Cohen?
Cause: Kashmir is both the cause and effect of this paired-minority complex, it can’t be “solved” because there is no solution as long as present mind-sets prevail in India.
Effect: Pakistani despondence and anger against Indian thags in uniform who kill innocent Kashmiris every day.
Cause: Regional trade is another area where India needs an excuse to do only what is in their self-interest. In this case there is the problem of the big fish: Pakistan is big fish as far as Afghanistan is concerned but of course India does not like it and always tries to poke its nose into Pak-Afghan trade.
Effect: Again Pakistani scarcity of trust when it comes to India.
What to do think?
Cause: Indian officials and media who decry Pakistan as a rogue state and the epicenter of terrorism.
Effect: Even though I don’t see any signs of it yet I would consider Pakistani hatred (in your words) just for the sake of argument.
What are your thoughts?
Cause: In words of Stephen Cohen "I think it would be a mistake to completely disregard Pakistan’s regional perceptions due to doubts about Indian competence in executing covert operations. That misses the point entirely. And I think it is unfair to dismiss the notion that Pakistan’s apprehensions about Afghanistan stem in part from its security competition with India. Having visited the Indian mission in Zahedan, Iran, I can assure you they are not issuing visas as the main activity! Moreover, India has run operations from its mission in Mazar (through which it supported the Northern Alliance) and is likely doing so from the other consulates it has reopened in Jalalabad and Qandahar along the border. Indian officials have told me privately that they are pumping money into Baluchistan."
Let me conclude with a to do list for India.
Resolve Kashmir issue.
Stop erroneous propaganda against Pakistan.
Let us do our trade with Afghanistan peacefully and stop trying to carry coal to new castle.
India should do more than simply reiterate its own self proclaimed excellent record.
Last but not least stop your unwanted and uncalled for intervention in Baluchistan and NWFP.
nice script for a movie.
