A suggestion for reconstructing old Urdu/Punjabi using Roma language

Roma people (gypsies) have been living in Europe since about 1200 years. It is now universally accepted that they originated from Northern India/ Pakistan. This conclusion is primarily based on their language which as many words similar to those used in Indo-Pak region.

Since Roma left, the languages in this region have transformed radically due to foreign influences of Persian, Arabic, Turkish, English, etc. Due to lack of written record, it is very difficult to reconstruct those languages.

But Roma language was not influenced by those foreign languages because they left the region very early.

I think it would be an interesting idea to compare words of Roma with those from Punjabi/Urdu. That will be like time travel in past.

Any takers? :slight_smile:

Re: Roma:A suggestion for reconstructing old Urdu/Punjabi

Where can we we find Roma words / vocabulary?

Re: A suggestion for reconstructing old Urdu/Punjabi using Roma language

^ yes

Re: A suggestion for reconstructing old Urdu/Punjabi using Roma language

There probably won’t be a site for this language.

Wiki:
Romani language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[TABLE]

Hindi/Urdu
Romani

1
ek
ekh, jekh

2
do
duj

3
tīn
trin

4
cār
štar

5
pāñc
pandž

6
che
šov

7
sāt
ifta

8
āţh
oxto

9
nau
inja

10
das
deš

20
bīs
biš

100
sau
šel

Re: A suggestion for reconstructing old Urdu/Punjabi using Roma language

The word for number 3 is similar to Sindhi 'tray' more than Urdu 'teen'.
But even more surprisingly, the word for number 7 is closer to Persian 'haft' than Urdu 'saat'?!

Re: A suggestion for reconstructing old Urdu/Punjabi using Roma language

interesting similarity

Re: A suggestion for reconstructing old Urdu/Punjabi using Roma language

the word for two 'duj' is similar to Saraikh duu and hindi Duja

Re: A suggestion for reconstructing old Urdu/Punjabi using Roma language

tray in Punjabi too

Re: A suggestion for reconstructing old Urdu/Punjabi using Roma language

Its tre or try? I think try is Saraiki, in Punjabi they say tin

Re: A suggestion for reconstructing old Urdu/Punjabi using Roma language

What is # 8 ? :confused: I can’t read it properly.

Re: A suggestion for reconstructing old Urdu/Punjabi using Roma language

I think it is pronounced 'okhto', with 'kh' sounding like the word 'khabar' (news).

Re: A suggestion for reconstructing old Urdu/Punjabi using Roma language

Hmmm :hmmm: