A 'sorry' for crimes during India-Pakistan partition

An online signature campaign seeking an “apology for the heinous crimes” of 1947, when the Indian subcontinent was partitioned, is receiving a tremendous response from people across borders.

The Association for Communal Harmony In Asia (ACHA), formed in the US in 1993, has initiated the campaign to empathise with and apologise to the victims and survivors of the 1947 Hindu-Muslim riots.

Its petition, launched on Aug 1, has been signed by hundreds of netizens and will be wrapped up at the end of this year. ACHA has as its members Indians, Pakistanis as well as Bangladeshis.

India, after it gained freedom from centuries-old British rule, was divided into two countries on the basis of religious affinities and Pakistan, a federation Muslim majority states, was born,Pakistan was later partitioned to form Bangladesh.

In the frenzy of communal violence, the petition says, around 15 million people were forced to leave their homes. Millions lost their lives. The horrific memories of mass murder, rape, pillage and suffering are unforgettable for the victims.

Sixty years since then, the wounds still ache and people have not been able to live with the rigors of the forced migration. What makes the healing more difficult is that the victims and perpetrators of the crimes were the same.

“The partition in 1947 was perhaps the darkest period in the history of the region (sub-continent),” says Pritam K. Rohila, executive director of ACHA.

Rohila, who was an eyewitness to the atrocities of the partition, feels that reconciliation begins when somebody accepts responsibility for the crime and “no one has so far accepted responsibility for these heinous crimes of 1947”.

“We the members of ACHA are inviting people in India and Pakistan to join us in the long-delayed effort by signing our petition of apology to the victims and their families at www.indiapakistanpeace.org,” Rohila, who is based in Poland, told on e-mail.

The association, which also includes Pervez Hoodbhoy, a known nuclear physicist and peace activist from Pakistan, and Haroon Habib, a journalist from Bangladesh, focuses on pursuing the agenda of peace between India and Pakistan, rather than “wasting them in condemning anyone and inadvertently publicising the work of hate-mongers”, said Rohila.

The association has since 2004 been conducting a campaign to encourage people to organise India-Pakistan Peace Day everywhere between Pakistan’s Independence Day Aug 14 and the UN Peace Day Sep 21. The petition of apology is one of the two core elements of the peace day campaign.

It wants signatories to read aloud an “affirmative statement of peace and harmony” every day from Aug 14 through Sep 21.

The statement apologetically says:

"We the members of the Association for Communal Harmony in Asia who have signed believe that the time has come for all of us together to condemn, without distinction, the insane orgy of violence and intimidation that marred the great human divide of 1947.

"We undertake to shun the political use of religion and communalism.

"On the 60th anniversary of our Independence Days, we remember that dark chapter in our history so as to ensure that these tragedies will be neither forgotten nor repeated.

“We regret that our forebears, the colonial British administration and the successor governments failed to prevent the tragedy, punish the perpetrators and/or apologize to you and your families,” the petition reads.

"In the spirit of harmony and goodwill among the people of South Asia, and to help build a new South Asian present and future, we grieve together for you. We offer our deepest sympathies and most solemn regrets to you and your families.

“We are sorry!”

Re: A 'sorry' for crimes during India-Pakistan partition

this is all drama.what diff would it make????
indians butchered millions of muslims migrating to Pak.
what a shame

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It was a shame.... for both sides...

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I Do Agree With Faris Udeen :) ............. its real shame for both sides

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no its a shame for indians only.they butchered millions of muslims returning to Pakistan.

Nasir: I have a feeling you are not even aware that Hindus were killed??!!.
Equally, in their hundred thousands - horribly.
Rapes and murders were perpetuated from both sides.

Look for some neutral sites to educate yourself.

August 14 1947:

After 90 years of British colonial rule, Pakistan gains independence from the British Empire. While the transition is officially at midnight on this day, Pakistan celebrates its independence on August 14, compared with India on the 15th. Muhammad Ali Jinnah becomes the first Governor General of Pakistan.

August 15 1947:

  • After more than 150 years of British colonial rule of the British India, the Congress leaders adopt the imperial successor name of India, as it succeeded from British rule by the transitional "Transfer of Power", and India declares its independence. Pakistan is also split from the British Empire. Rajendra Prasad is the first President of India. Jawaharlal Nehru takes office as the first Prime Minister of India.
  • The Khan of the Kalat (princely state), Baluchistan decides to join Muslim Pakistan.
  • The Nizam of Hyderabad State, refuses to accede to the Indian government, and declares independence.

list of atrocities committed in india, pakistan, bangladesh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_War_of_1947

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_War_of_1965

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_War_of_1971

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Searchlight

inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi raji’un :frowning:

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those were bad times....

My mentor and great uncle... never spoke about what happened in Nagpur... only years later i met a Sikh fellow in Southhall when i first came here in UK.

Somehow i dont know quite how the fellow knew it was me... i guess i looked so like my great uncle same hieght and attitude etc but he asked me if i was grandson of Shakar Hussain.

I said no... that my great unlce had no heirs and that i was son of his brothers son... the Sikh knelt down in front of me and i was shocked to see this man who was as old as any man i'd seen go down on his knees and cry and tell me he owed his life to my great mentor... because my Ustaad had saved his and many fammilies lives from looters.

It was a real bad time back then... the british did nothing to stop it and activley armed both sides mobs and even stoked up the violence whole districts were massacred. :(

I am not a lover of India but i am a Human and i know that killing women and children is wrong.

I am used to the jongoistic attitude from both countries and i got sucked in when i was a soldier but it's not the right attitude.

Sure if both sides sent 500 men into the thar desert to fight with blades and spears at close range then thats something i would do becuase it's noble and an act of honour to die in battle like that. But to fight wars and commit the crimes that were done back in 47 and still happen in Kashmir and parts of Sindh province etc then i would rather shoot any man i saw regardless of which side he was on who raised a weapon to a non combatant.

My family traveled from Lahore and Bahawalpur, they carried only few articles of clothing, they traveled for finding homeland in a place hitherto known to them. It is unfortunate when brothers turned enemy, same happened with the Muslims on Indian side, partition was worse then holocaust,
With the people marrying across borders, hope our generation would not do anything that can be equated with partition
God bless all of us

jeetIAF

Boredman:

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India, after it gained freedom from centuries-old British rule, was divided into two countries
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India never was a one country. So there is no question of "dividing" it.
People of subcontinent never had any sense of belonging to one nation before British.

And about apologies of the massacres of 1947's, I guess instead of apologizing to Pakistanis, Bharatis first need to apologize to Muslims of their own country on which they have had imposed several massacres even after 1947.
And while we are at being such "nice" guys, why not stop brutalizing Kashmiri Muslims TODAY before apologizing for their crimes in the PAST?

I think all these apologies are nothing but farce from some liberals. Time has passed. If there was to be any apology then it should have been from murderers to the families of the victims. Those who committed massacres are themselves dead now. Apologies to the heirs don't matter anymore.

Well Please Read The Entire Article First............ Infact Three Fronts India,Pakistan And Bangladesh All Are The Loosers When It Comes To Partition...... Equally Hindus And Muslims Were Killed In It............ Regarding Kashmir..... Very Soon You Shall Have The Article On It With Every Fact File...... Including The Political Dramas Played By The Great Leaders Of Indo-Pak.. Inshallah :)

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I did read it. What point do you think I missed?

Boredman:

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Infact Three Fronts India,Pakistan And Bangladesh All Are The Loosers When It Comes To Partition
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Losers in what sense?

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Equally Hindus And Muslims Were Killed In It
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How do you know for sure that there were equal numbers of Hindus and Muslims killed? Who was keeping record?
It is unfortunate that anyone was killed, Hindu or Muslim, but there is no denying fact that Muslims only started killings AFTER they heard news of massacres of Muslims coming from Bharat.

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Regarding Kashmir..... Very Soon You Shall Have The Article On It With Every Fact File
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Will that article have a "sorry" statement in it too? Will Bharat then give Kashmiris their independence?

And while we have this apology fever going on, what about Bharat apologizing to its OWN Muslim population for many massacres it has committed? How about apologizing for Gujrat Massacre?

I again say, leave the past behind. There is no point apologizing just for the sake of it. What we need to ensure instead is that the countries resolve their differences of PRESENT DAY, and work for the betterment of their FUTURE.

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I think its time to move on.

I don't understand how people can even a heart to "say sorry" for the massacres. How can a person forgive a murder just because someone says 'sorry'?! It's never going to happen.
We may not seek revenge, but forgiveness for killings of our beloveds is simply impossible. And when it comes to such emotional subjects, then saying "I'm sorry" only reminds the victims of their ordeals. It does nothing but stoke the fire.

So people need to stop playing these emotional games, leave their extremist liberalism aside, and HONESTLY work for the good of people of both countries who are not guilty of massacres and violence.

You should apologize to your own minorities too, before they go extinct

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Minorities? Do you know most people getting killed in Pakistan are actually in MAJORITY?
I think the governments need to ensure safety of EVERY citizen of the country, and this includes minorities.

well i am sure i will not be using SORRY Word for the article on kashmir.... here we are talking about partition not about GUJRAT MASSACRE ................ HOW ARE SURE THAT ONLY MUSLIMS LOST THEIR LIVES IN THE PARTITION ?

Millions left for their promised new homeland with smiles on their faces as trains left both India and Pakistan.

And what was the nature of pre-partition camaraderie in villages and towns? It is suggested that if one were to look at the overall organisation of pre-partition societies, there was cohesion generated by ‘tribe’ or biradari, rural commonalities, linkages and economic interests. The anthropological paradigm of ‘ethnic bonding’ between some Punjabi castes like the Jats on both sides of the border and the common ‘Punjabi ethos’ show a complete neutralisation of the Muslim-Hindu divide during partition, with faith and nationalistic fervour taking precedence. In the pre-partition milieu, religious identity in rural settings was overshadowed by bonding between similar tribe or caste or occupation or geography.

Another perspective highlighted is the notion of honour (izzat), which was of paramount importance for individuals of all participating communities. Many individuals saved people from other communities as a manifestation of honour, whether while doing their duty or in a personal capacity notwithstanding religion, caste and creed. The concept of ‘watan’ or paidaish or place of birth proved to be equally important for analysing the quandary of the generation surviving the trauma of partition. The positive, it is suggested, continues to reflect when establishments acknowledge the significance of watan or paidaish place when it comes to politicians. It has been aptly said: “Every bird loves to fly back to its nest and so do we, human beings. We are passionately attached to our roots, the pull of these roots beckons us to our ancestors”

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Boredman:

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HOW ARE SURE THAT ONLY MUSLIMS LOST THEIR LIVES IN THE PARTITION ?
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Where did I say that? Please don't put words in my mouth.
Instead I said that killings in Pakistan were the result of terrible news of massacres happening in Bharat.
I am also saying that only a "sorry" for killings and expecting forgiveness is disrespectful for the dead and insulting for survivors.