No, its just 'cos Man is made superior… so he in general has the power to unleash his cruelty… that’s why power needs insight, not hindsight.
And as for an observation, i have seen many many guys, who are good to their parents (not 'cos they are dum, but 'cos they love 'em) to be very good in general; good to their wives and kind to their kids.
And their, our religious history and blah blah, but i won’t go into all that… for now.
I knew i would be bombarded with those OMG's... but it was expected.
I am sorry, i can't really argue as we both have that lil ideological difference u know... whereas you might be thinking its horrible, our faith puts our parents right UP there. So!!! And we can't even compare.
Respect :)
Do not play the religion card. Its' not a matter of ideological differences. Certain things are appalling no matter what religion or culture and considering a wife and child replaceable is one of them.
No, its just 'cos Man is made superior... so he in general has the power to unleash his cruelty... that's why power needs insight, not hindsight. ;)
And as for an observation, i have seen many many guys, who are good to their parents (not 'cos they are dum, but 'cos they love 'em) to be very good in general; good to their wives and kind to their kids.
And their, our religious history and blah blah, but i won't go into all that..... for now.
:)
A guy who is good to his parents isn't dumb but one who considers his wife and child replaceable is and much more.
Someone who believes the above and uses faith to back it up is sadly misguided or has a heart of stone. Yes, parents are important, but our religion also tells us to treat our wife and kids with kindness.
A thesis on religious history and blah blah (as you put it) isn't necessary, it's really quite simple--you treat both with love and respect. The second you start to think one can be replaced, you lose respect and love for that person.
The catholics especially would want to see "wife" as the answer because when you marry in the Catholic church, the bond is for life. There is no divorce. A divorced person may still attend mass but may not receive the sacrament of communion (a very very important thing to a faithful catholic) nor may they remarry in the eyes of the church.
Do not play the religion card. Its' not a matter of ideological differences. Certain things are appalling no matter what religion or culture and considering a wife and child replaceable is one of them.
A guy who is good to his parents isn't dumb but one who considers his wife and child replaceable is and much more.
Someone who believes the above and uses faith to back it up is sadly misguided or has a heart of stone. Yes, parents are important, but our religion also tells us to treat our wife and kids with kindness.
A thesis on religious history and blah blah (as you put it) isn't necessary, it's really quite simple--you treat both with love and respect. The second you start to think one can be replaced, you lose respect and love for that person.
Sad.
I don't get it. Why ur tone is THAT harsh??? Have i offended you or anything. If not then please!!!!
As i said to Mamoof before i quoted you... i knew i would be thought as naive...
And no matter what logic i could have thrown at you guys, it would have back tracked to my thinking and would have been easier for guys like YOU to label me with what ever barbaric tag you would be happy to tag with.
If its with that WORD replaceable (and that word was used in context with the example, of sinking boat... and if u can't get it now, u will never...sorry), well, wife and kids are... no matter how u look... divorces deaths and new marriages and e.t.c... but THAT does not take away from the fact that u still have to be kind and protective of ur family... back track to my quote if u may.
But u can't replace Moms... u can't replace ur dad... and religiously speaking (and for some reason I find it insulting that some would take any thing into account and not something religious even if its the pinnacle of standards and the way we should live and aspire to live) U are not even allowed to say an 'UFF' in disagreement to your parents.... and e.t.c.
Anyways... i would like you people to take things rationally and not jump onto conclusions. Thank you.
Since it's a pre-marriage counseling, any smart guy WILL say wife and yes he must if he wants a happy marriage, but even he won't know the real answer until they actually face the situation!
I also wanna see the reactions for the reverse scenario.. who would I give a piece of bread.. my husband or mother?! the obvious answer is mother but that's just because I love her so much that I won't even think twice!
I don't get it. Why ur tone is THAT harsh??? Have i offended you or anything. If not then please!!!!
As i said to Mamoof before i quoted you... i knew i would be thought as naive...
And no matter what logic i could have thrown at you guys, it would have back tracked to my thinking and would have been easier for guys like YOU to label me with what ever barbaric tag you would be happy to tag with.
If its with that WORD replaceable (and that word was used in context with the example, of sinking boat... and if u can't get it now, u will never...sorry), well, wife and kids are... no matter how u look... divorces deaths and new marriages and e.t.c... but THAT does not take away from the fact that u still have to be kind and protective of ur family... back track to my quote if u may.
But u can't replace Moms... u can't replace ur dad... and religiously speaking (and for some reason I find it insulting that some would take any thing into account and not something religious even if its the pinnacle of standards and the way we should live and aspire to live) U are not even allowed to say an 'UFF' in disagreement to your parents.... and e.t.c.
Anyways... i would like you people to take things rationally and not jump onto conclusions. Thank you.
My tone is not harsh, if you think it is, that's your interpretation then. Barbaric isn't the right word to use but rather cold and calculating. And by the argument you are giving, asking us to be rational and not emotional, to think that a wife and children are replaceable is pretty cold.
A flicker of emotion isn't necessarily a bad thing as you seem to think it is.
My tone is not harsh, if you think it is, that's your interpretation then. Barbaric isn't the right word to use but rather cold and calculating. And by the argument you are giving, asking us to be rational and not emotional, to think that a wife and children are replaceable is pretty cold.
A flicker of emotion isn't necessarily a bad thing as you seem to think it is.
Cold and calculated...
Now i am not going to ask for reasons, as u'll not have any basis to give me... why to chose this or that... BUT i do... and i DID.
And yet again, that term replaceable is used for a specific reason... and not as u use for ur cloths and socks... But If i find it hard for u to grasp the depth of it, believe me, i am not at all surprised!
CF, chill man. I think you are not married and you dont yet have children. Once you havve a wife that you are responsible for and once she gives you a child that you have created with her....I think you will definitely have a change of heart.
Clinically speaking, you are indeed right. A man can get another wife. A wife can get another husband. Both can produce new children. But once you have a wife or a husband or a child, nothing is ever the same. You "belong" to each other not in the sense of property but in the sense of heart. And it is (or should be) a forever thing. And may you one day find this and take back your "replaceable" comments!! :)
Its actually easy.
Its like u r in a boat, an accident occurred... and it turned over or something. Now u have urself, ur family and ur mom, who are u gonna save?
Some went for their wives, others for their kids, some didn't tried 'cos according to them their own lives are important...and....Muslims for their moms.
Explanation, simple... wives and kids are replaceable... Mothers... NOT.
Though you have mentioned 'Muslims', I dont believe this trick question was meant to highlight how much muslims revere there mothers. I think that this question (and the answer to it) is strictly numerical in nature, specially, the way you have put it forward, with wives and kids being technically replaceable, since you can always remarry, and can have more kids, but only one woman (your mon) will ever give birth to you.
You guys dont crucify Cold Fire for this statement. I dont think it was in any way meant to state that wives and kids are (god forbid) dispensable. It was just a numerical answer to what seems to be a trick question. Otherwise, if you want to dissect this question from an emotional perspective, no sane person will ever be able to make a decision and live with it.
I think we need to look at this a bit more deeply. A mother is not "replaceable" in that there is no way, no how to ever get another mother. While it is possible to get another wife or husband or child. But when it comes down to who it is you save....
A mother's job is to sacrifice for her children. To raise them so that they are productive and constructive, positive members of society. Once the child reaches adulthood, they should be these things. And a good mother would absolutely refuse to eat the bread and chastise her son for even suggesting such a thing. A perfectly raised son will want to care for his wife, the person he has chosen to spend the rest of his life with, the person he has chosen to procreate with. Once married, mama's job is done. Husband and wife's jobs are just beginning. So if the son says "mama I am so sorry but I need to save my wife" then mama will say "Thank God/Allah that I have raised you properly".