Dk bhai, your response looks anomalous to me because three out of four assumptions are actually transpiring from one conviction that you unconsciously wrote as number 1. It is human psychology to prepare arguments around our convictions; it takes great moral and philosophical courage to refute convictions stemming out from congenital or acquired bias.
1) God does not exist. This world is created by a random function.
Philosophically, theodicy or supernatural theology, this statement is so very refutable, though you did not explain a “random function”, cause of its creation, its subsistence and scope, but a function which is subsistent to its randomness is highly unlikely to give birth to a system of epic perfection. The notion of the creation of this universe, our galaxy, our solar system, our earth and life on earth out of a random function serves as an antithesis to a very organized character of this universe, here are a few clues about a very organized system in heavens and earth.
• “The Earth...its size is perfect. The Earth's size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth's surface.
If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter.(4) Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.
The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up.
Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day.
And our moon is the perfect size and distance from the Earth for its gravitational pull. The moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet it restrains our massive oceans from spilling over across the continents.
• Water...colorless, odorless and without taste, and yet no living thing can survive without it. Plants, animals and human beings consist mostly of water (about two-thirds of the human body is water). You'll see why the characteristics of water are uniquely suited to life...
It has an unusually high boiling point and freezing point. Water allows us to live in an environment of fluctuating temperature changes, while keeping our bodies a steady 98.6 degrees.
Water is a universal solvent. Take a full glass of water, add a cup of sugar, and nothing spills over the edge; the water simply absorbs the sugar. This property of water means that thousands of chemicals, minerals and nutrients can be carried throughout our bodies and into the smallest blood vessels.
Water is also chemically inert. Without affecting the makeup of the substances it carries, water enables food, medicines and minerals to be absorbed and used by the body.
Water has a unique surface tension. Water in plants can therefore flow upward against gravity, bringing life-giving water and nutrients to the top of even the tallest trees.
Water freezes from the top down and floats, so fish can live in the winter.
Ninety-seven percent of the Earth's water is in the oceans. But on our Earth, there is a system designed which removes salt from the water and then distributes that water throughout the globe. Evaporation takes the ocean waters, leaving the salt, and forms clouds which are easily moved by the wind to disperse water over the land, for vegetation, animals and people. It is a system of purification and supply that sustains life on this planet, a system of recycled and reused water.”
.2) If God had Created this world then he/she is dead now.
Perception of an anomaly in a system is justifiable only when cause of an anomaly is conceived also; seemingly imperfect symptoms don’t account for or become a reason for an imperfect cause. More so what has changed since the creation of first human being, has it not been the human will all along, has it not been in our hands to either make this world heaven or hell, why don’t we see imperfection in our will instead of God. If, for instance I agree with your assumption, why things haven’t changed then?
3)If God exists, then he is playing a game where we all are the characters of this game.
The whole notion of games transpires from an idea of amusement which in itself is a desire to seek pleasure, philosophical and theological God is beyond any desire, beyond any appetite for pleasure, God’s will stem out from pure necessity.
4)If God exists, then He is so intelligent, we can not think up to his level of thinking, and discussing these type of things are meaningless.
It entirely depends upon your appetite for the perfection of God’s conception, and the path that you select to satisfy your appetite, a lot of information is available that can push your feet into the quagmire of atheism and at the same time a lot of information is available to lift level of spirituality where you find yourself beyond the desire of a common understandable image of God, all you need to have is a fresh will to find God.
Most of the atheists, knowingly or unknowingly, take their inspiration from immanentism which discards philosophy of metaphysics, an immanentist is somehow caged within the cell of his mind, can not contemplate about the knowledge of noumenal reality, I think therefore I am is what they believe in, as oppose to philosophy of realism that holds that all epistemology is founded upon the notion of being, being is prior to thought, I am therefore I think.
1) God does not exist. This world is created by a random function.
Philosophically, theodicy or supernatural theology, this statement is so very refutable, though you did not explain a “random function”, cause of its creation, its subsistence and scope, but a function which is subsistent to its randomness is highly unlikely to give birth to a system of epic perfection. The notion of the creation of this universe, our galaxy, our solar system, our earth and life on earth out of a random function serves as an antithesis to a very organized character of this universe, here are a few clues about a very organized system in heavens and earth.
Random function can be explained by example for example there is no reason why the name of colour red is "red", this colour is named by random function. random function can win you a lottery of rupees 1 crore. so why can't any random function do all things related to our creation. according to Darwin's theory no one created life, but it is created by random functions and also organised by the creation of that random functions. Darwin may had stand firm on his theory, but I go with all assumptions untill I would be convinced completely by any assumption.
• “The Earth...its size is perfect. The Earth's size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth's surface.
If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter.(4) Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.
The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up.
Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day.
And our moon is the perfect size and distance from the Earth for its gravitational pull. The moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet it restrains our massive oceans from spilling over across the continents.
• Water...colorless, odorless and without taste, and yet no living thing can survive without it. Plants, animals and human beings consist mostly of water (about two-thirds of the human body is water). You'll see why the characteristics of water are uniquely suited to life...
It has an unusually high boiling point and freezing point. Water allows us to live in an environment of fluctuating temperature changes, while keeping our bodies a steady 98.6 degrees.
Water is a universal solvent. Take a full glass of water, add a cup of sugar, and nothing spills over the edge; the water simply absorbs the sugar. This property of water means that thousands of chemicals, minerals and nutrients can be carried throughout our bodies and into the smallest blood vessels.
Water is also chemically inert. Without affecting the makeup of the substances it carries, water enables food, medicines and minerals to be absorbed and used by the body.
Water has a unique surface tension. Water in plants can therefore flow upward against gravity, bringing life-giving water and nutrients to the top of even the tallest trees.
Water freezes from the top down and floats, so fish can live in the winter.
Ninety-seven percent of the Earth's water is in the oceans. But on our Earth, there is a system designed which removes salt from the water and then distributes that water throughout the globe. Evaporation takes the ocean waters, leaving the salt, and forms clouds which are easily moved by the wind to disperse water over the land, for vegetation, animals and people. It is a system of purification and supply that sustains life on this planet, a system of recycled and reused water.”
Don't you think all this can be created by random function. If you did not yet, then think on it. I can give you a thousand of examples that ca meke you aggree with me about their creation by random function like red colour, i have already told.
.2) If God had Created this world then he/she is dead now.
Perception of an anomaly in a system is justifiable only when cause of an anomaly is conceived also; seemingly imperfect symptoms don’t account for or become a reason for an imperfect cause. More so what has changed since the creation of first human being, has it not been the human will all along, has it not been in our hands to either make this world heaven or hell, why don’t we see imperfection in our will instead of God. If, for instance I agree with your assumption, why things haven’t changed then?
3)If God exists, then he is playing a game where we all are the characters of this game.
The whole notion of games transpires from an idea of amusement which in itself is a desire to seek pleasure, philosophical and theological God is beyond any desire, beyond any appetite for pleasure, God’s will stem out from pure necessity.
I don't know whether God is beyond any desire, beyond any appetite for pleasure. Because I don't have any reason to believe it.I am not saying you are wrong, but Beacasue I don't have any reason to believe you , that's why I go with assumptions. If I think against what you think ,I feel that can also be right, that can also be possible.
4)If God exists, then He is so intelligent, we can not think up to his level of thinking, and discussing these type of things are meaningless.
It entirely depends upon your appetite for the perfection of God’s conception, and the path that you select to satisfy your appetite, a lot of information is available that can push your feet into the quagmire of atheism and at the same time a lot of information is available to lift level of spirituality where you find yourself beyond the desire of a common understandable image of God, all you need to have is a fresh will to find God.
Most of the atheists, knowingly or unknowingly, take their inspiration from immanentism which discards philosophy of metaphysics, an immanentist is somehow caged within the cell of his mind, can not contemplate about the knowledge of noumenal reality, I think therefore I am is what they believe in, as oppose to philosophy of realism that holds that all epistemology is founded upon the notion of being, being is prior to thought, I am therefore I think
I am thinking like this beacause I may be ingnoring the reality. I can't admit that this is my ignorance till I come to know something against it. beacuse I go with what is possible, not with what is told me.
I am told God is there. but I don't have any reason to not think against it.