"One must also be told that if he/she goes back to their old religion after becoming Muslim,is to be killed. (Because the punishment for apostasy in Islam is death. Whoever recognizes the true religion and enters it then leaves it, does not deserve to live. **Hence the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “Whoever changes his religion, kill him.” **. This is what is to be applied if person is living in a country which is ruled by sharee’ah. The point is that this person should be informed of the seriousness of the matter. And Allaah is the source of strength.) "
Can some one explain the above plz. why man to be killed if he changes his religion from islam to another???
** “There is no compulsion in religion. ** Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that never breaks. And God hears and knows all things.” [Qur’an 2:256]
(1) This is the ruling of Allaah and His Messenger, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever changes his religion, kill him.” (reported by al-Bukhaari, al-Fath, no. 3017).
(2) The one who has known the religion which Allaah revealed, entered it and practised it, then rejected it, despised it and left it, is a person who does not deserve to live on the earth of Allaah and eat from the provision of Allaah.
(3) By leaving Islam, the apostate opens the way for everyone who wants to leave the faith, thus spreading apostasy and encouraging it.
(4) The apostate is not to be killed without warning. Even though his crime is so great, he is given a last chance, a respite of three days in which to repent. If he repents, he will be left alone; if he does not repent, then he will be killed.
(5) None of those who bleat about personal freedom and freedom of belief would put up with a neighbour’s child hitting their child or justify this as “personal freedom,” so how can they justify leaving the true religion and rejecting the sharee’ah which Allaah revealed to teach mankind about His unity and bring justice and fairness to all?
We ask Allaah for safety and health. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad:saw:
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(5) None of those who bleat about personal freedom and freedom of belief would put up with a neighbour's child hitting their child or justify this as "personal freedom," so how can they justify leaving the true religion and rejecting the sharee'ah which Allaah revealed to teach mankind about His unity and bring justice and fairness to all?
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yeh kuch samajh main naheen ayee logic?? not that the rest of it appears sound..
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Punishment of the one who leaves Islam...
(1) This is the ruling of Allaah and His Messenger, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whoever changes his religion, kill him." (reported by al-Bukhaari, al-Fath, no. 3017).
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You only shared a hadith, plz share where Allah swt made it compulsory/law to kill one who left Islam. Thanks
^ If I remember correctly, If you are a born/raised muslim and decide to change your religion, you can very well change it. But if you are a non-muslim and decide to come under Islam with your conscious present and then afterwards decide to change your religion again, you are obliged for the death penalty. This is done to prevent the misuse of the name of Islam, that's why if your deciding to change your religion and to come under Islam, you should be well aware of the heart of it.. and must not be kidding around with your beliefs.
If I am wrong, please correct me. I will try to find some authentic preferences to back this up. Wallah o alam.
Dhulfiqar, you are forgetting the hypocrites who LIVED during the Prophet's life, Allah swt also tells that in Quran. So what you explained / thought is incorrect.
Prophet PBUH didn't kill any hypocrites, nor he was ordered to.
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Must be pretty ****** in the head to do that
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This is a religious forum and proper language should be used.
In Holy Quran Surah Al-Nisa, we read:
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Those who believe, then disbelieve, then again believe, then disbelieve and then increase in disbelief, Allah will never forgive them nor will He guide them to the right way. (4:138)
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This is utterly ridiculous. Regardless of what you may think is said in Holy Quron, killing anyone for changing religion is ILLEGAL. In most civilised countries where rule of law prevails, this will be interpreted as incitement to commit murder. Therefore it is a very good idea to find a better and more appropriate approach if you want to prevent flight of people from anything (such as positive reinforcements instead of punishment)
Do Imams warn the new comers of this threat at the time when they wish to embrace Islam?
Do you think that people will embrace Islam if they are told the truth in the beginning?
I am sure all of you are a little confused.
Well my dear fellows,
just think about this matter with a cool mind. This is a Bukhari Hadith and is thus reliable. When a person embraces Islam he accepts it completely not just apart of it. There is no compulsion in making someone accept Islam so that anyone who accepts Islam does it with a clear mind and clear picture of Islam.No one forces you to accept Islam but once you have, you have to do as it says. If you ppl think this punishment is very harsh, then punishment of amputation of hand for theft is also harsh. But these are facts. And why would anyone who has accepted Islam want to change it? Does he not believe in one God, or Muhammad or prayers or fasts or Zakat or Haj or Angels or Prophets or Day of Judgement? Why would a person who is sane would change Islam as his Religion. Is there any other religion better than Islam? No. The only reason i can think of is that that person is upto mischief. Changing religion is a serious matter, not a game that u accept Islam, then decide no it doesn't look so good and then change again.
I don't think this punishment is illegal or cruel, and if you all think with a clear mind it wouldn't seem unjust to you too.
if you use death as threat to prevent conversion how about conversion
under death threat? what a muslim will do given a choice death or convert? so use of force is double edged sword.
Then what about the following verse of Holy Quran in Surah Al-Nisa
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Those who believe, then disbelieve, then again believe, then disbelieve and then increase in disbelief, Allah will never forgive them nor will He guide them to the right way. (4:138)
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If the punishment of Apostacy is murder then why is not mentioned in Holy Quran and in the above verse. A person should be killed the very first he disbelieve after embraching Islam, But the above verse clearly mentions that one can disbelieve many times after believing and still he would not be killed but Only Allah would deal with him not any one on this earth.
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Well my dear fellows,
just think about this matter with a cool mind. This is a Bukhari Hadith and is thus reliable.
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hadeeth is not the word of God, teh accuracy of hadeeth has been challenged many times, many hadeeth have been taken out due to that, even those who are in there ahve been investigated to the best ability of the people who were compiling them, but they were human and could have made errors, even if it was heard from several sources. I always take hadeeth with a graon of salt and evaluate whether it appears to be in line with the basics and proceed acordingly. Blindly accepting it just because it is in bokhari is not the right approach in my view.
let ppl covert in, convert out, its their life, their faith and their business
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* just think about this matter with a cool mind. This is a Bukhari Hadith and is thus reliable.** ....
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Dear Brother ! that is the problem iff we think with cool mind, it does seems much worse. Not talking about non-muslim prospective. But i think the above approch has created more hypocrates. If a person is not sincere with islam and he is not allowed to turn to another religon of his choice because of death fear, then what will he do ? It will create harted in his mind and most likey will work against muslims
Brother Quran comes first then Hadees, iff any hadees does not comply with quran then we have to reconsider it. It does not nessesarily means that the hadees is weak or not reliable, but we have to dig deeply for its true meanings and circumstances at that time
If Allah allows a person to beleive and then disbeleive and then beleive again, then how can you kill him.
More Importantly iff Allah has not allowed killing of open hypocrates(who were more harmfull to muslims) then how he allowed killing of this harmless person ?
“There is no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that never breaks. And God hears and knows all things.” [Qur’an 2:256]
.... last night I read that 3 days time should be given 2 think over the matter and if they still chose 2 leave his religion then it means death for men i.e the man should be killed and women should be locked up till death.