A matter of impeachment

Time for Mushrraf to go & army to get our of politics. Its long over due and if he refuses he should be thrown out using all legal means necessary.

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=101813

A matter of impeachment
Tuesday, March 18, 2008
Khwaja Ahmad Hosain

Two hundred and ninety-five. That is the key number. That is the number of votes that are needed to impeach President Musharraf under the constitution. The constitutional chronology contemplated for such removal is clearly set forth in Article 47. First, at least half of the members of the National Assembly would present a written notice to the speaker of their intention to move a resolution for the impeachment of the president. The notice would set out the particulars of the charge against him. In this case the charge is simple. The president violated the constitution on November 3, 2007.

Within three days from receipt of the written notice from the MNAs the speaker must send the notice to the president. Between day seven and day fourteen starting from the date the speaker received the notice, the speaker must summon a joint session of the National Assembly and the Senate which will investigate the charge. The president has the right to be represented and to appear during this investigation process. If, after considering the result of the investigation, two thirds of the total membership of both the National Assembly and the Senate at the joint session declare by a resolution that the president is guilty of violating the constitution or gross misconduct, the president shall cease to hold office immediately upon the passing of such resolution. No further action is required and upon the passing of such a resolution the president shall, ipso facto, cease to hold office.

The crucial point is that to impeach the president you do not need a two-thirds majority in the Senate, which is currently controlled by forces supporting the president. Even if the impeachment resolution is supported by less than half the Senators, as long as sufficient number of MNAs vote in support of it so that the threshold of 295 is reached, the resolution will be passed.

This procedure is different from the procedure prescribed for amendments to the constitution. To amend the constitution you need a two thirds majority in both the National Assembly and the Senate. There is no concept of a joint sitting here and each house will separately consider the constitutional amendment bill. As long as Musharraf has the support of at least 34 senators, he can block any constitutional amendment bill.

In addition, a constitutional amendment bill must be assented to by the president to become law. If the president wants, he can send a constitutional amendment bill back to parliament to reconsider the same and then parliament will need to pass it again (with the same two thirds majority in each house). Once passed again, the requirement for presidential assent is not removed but the discretion of the president to withhold his assent is removed. Under the constitution the president must assent to a bill which has been passed twice by parliament.

Constitutional amendments require, at the very least, presidential involvement. Even if a constitutional amendment package is passed with a two thirds majority in each house, the president can refuse to give his assent to a first draft of any such bill and can delay the grant of assent if the bill is presented to him for the second time. If any constitutional amendment bill is proposed in the presence of Musharraf and the post November 3 Supreme Court, various devices could be used by the presidency to sabotage the prospects of such a bill.

The constitutional impeachment process requires no action from the president and gives no rights or discretion to the president apart from the right to be represented before and heard by the relevant adjudicating tribunal which is the joint membership of the National Assembly and the Senate. The “court” in an impeachment trial consists of the representatives of the people sitting in the National Assembly and Senate. The conduct of the impeachment trial and the timing of any vote on the impeachment resolution will be controlled by the speaker. Neither the army nor the existing Supreme Court can save the president from impeachment if the necessary parliamentary majority exists.

The PPP and PML-N have expressed their desire to restore the deposed judges by a parliamentary resolution within 30 days. The president’s advisers have stated this is not legally possible and that the judges cannot be restored without a constitutional amendment. There is a risk, which has been hinted at already, that if parliament “resolves” that the judges should return, the existing judiciary may stay such a resolution before it can take effect. This will put the current de facto bench and the presidency at loggerheads with the government and the legislature. Can the political players afford to take the gamble that the army will support them in such an impasse? It is this uncertainty that the presidency and establishment will seek to exploit.

It is for this reason that it is crucial that the maximum possible support is developed in the parliament in favour of the proposed resolution for restoration of the judges. If the resolution manages to get the support of sufficient members of parliament, the president and his supporters should be able to read the writing on the wall. All institutions of state and political players will then see that trying to block the restoration by coming to the aid of the beleaguered president will be a futile exercise.

The prospect of being the first president in the history of Pakistan to be subject to an impeachment trial hangs over his head like the Sword of Damocles. During any impeachment trial, apart perhaps from certain members of the PML-Q and the MQM, his remaining supporters will abandon him like rats leaving a sinking ship for the sake of their political survival. If notwithstanding this prospect, the president stays in his bunker and still tries to block the restoration, the democratic forces in parliament can strike and put the final nail in his coffin by impeaching him.

The writer is an Oxford-educated barrister practising corporate law in Lahore.

Re: A matter of impeachment

If it ever came to this point, then there is no reason for Musharraf to drag the process so far. Once the maths on a possible impeachment vote becomes clear, and the ruling coalition expresses a desire to impeach Mushy, he will likely leave on his own. All good soldiers know when to retreat and not fight a losing battle.

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^^^ true, but we're talking about Mushrraf. Good soliders never get into politics either.

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I don't know why Musharaf is still hanging on and wasting his life. There are no alternatives that are better for Pakistan or for the region but too much has happened for him to be effective.

Go retire in Switzerland or Saudi and enjoy.

It would certainly be funny to run into him in a grocery store or video store in the US with his grand kids hanging on to gramps.

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But it is not possible for another 2 years atleast when the next Senate elections are due. A simple 2/3 majority in NA is not enough. so all this talk of impeachment and restoration of judges (I am most definitely for the latter but only those judges that refused to take oath on first PCO) seems premature to me, they just don't have the numbers presently.

Plus there is also a remote possibility that upon seeing that takhta neechay se phisal raha hai this 'doghla' Dogra might call in the army to save the hides of the SC judges

Nothing can be totally discounted

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Frankly, before I read this article, I had not known that to impeach the President, they don't need to prove 2/3rd majority in both the NA and the Senate, separately. It seems like a 2/3rd majority is needed in combined Parliament. So being able to gather the independent MNA's and minor parties together, even if they don't have 2/3rd in Senate, they can still pose a serious numbers challenge for impeachment in combined parliament.

Re: A matter of impeachment

where will musharraf go?

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Interesting view on Mush’s bleak future, by PML-Q
http://www.dawn.com/2008/03/19/nat1.htm

PML-Q thinks it was ditched by Musharraf

LAHORE, March 18: Despite reiterations of its stand to support President Pervez Musharraf under all circumstances, the PML-Q now thinks that the president may have to step down if the new coalition government succeeds in fulfilling its promise to reinstate the deposed judges.

“In case the sacked judges are restored, President Musharraf will be left with no option but to resign,” said a senior party leader privy to behind-the-scene developments and the nature of contacts between the PPP and the president.

According to him, the president already stood sidelined and was not in a position to use his constitutional powers in the changed situation because of the numerical strength in the National Assembly of the PPP, PML-N, ANP and JUI-F which have agreed to form a coalition at the centre. He said the president’s survival in office was linked to the fate of the deposed judges.

“In case the judges are back, the president will have to pack up”.

This is the first time that people in the PML-Q have

started saying that the man who had cobbled together their party ahead of the 2002 elections and then kept it in power for five years, cornering the PPP and the PML-N, did not appear to have a smooth political future.

According to this leader, in their back channel talks the PPP had assured President Musharraf that it would not support any move to impeach him or restore the sacked judges. But, he said, it now appeared that the PML-N had created a situation in which the PPP leadership was not in a position to adhere to the assurances it had given to the president.

PPP and the PML-N sources say that the two parties would continue to mount pressure on the president to quit, but it is less likely that they will go for impeaching him despite having the required numerical strength.

“In the prevailing situation the president will face an impeachment-like situation every day because of the ruling coalition’s strength. But we’ll not have to annoy the main backer of President Musharraf, the United States, by trying to oust him,” said PML-N sources, hoping that the former army chief would not be able to face the pressure for long and would ultimately give up.

A PML-Q leader, who did not want to be named, alleged that President Musharraf had changed his attitude towards his party at the time of polls in an attempt to have good ties with the PPP he thought would be his new ally. The leadership had experienced the change a few days after the polls.

The PML-Q president called former minister Ishaq Khakwani, who was defeated by PML-N’s Tehmina Daultana by about over a 1,000 votes, to Islamabad for an important meeting. Another former federal minister, who was defeated on two seats, was also there.

The former ruling party chief told the two former ministers to approach a senior official of the Election Commission with a vote recount plea, assuring them that they would get relief as the official had received necessary instructions from the presidency.

They ‘reported’ to the said official but were surprised to find that contrary to their expectations the official’s attitude was quite different. However, they submitted their pleas and started waiting for the outcome.

When no action was taken in the next few days, they approached the party leadership for further instructions. The PML-Q chief reportedly told them that he had been trying to talk to the president for a few days but his call was not getting through.

This led the PML-Q leadership to believe that the president had changed his political partners.

However, the PML-Q leaders are happy that the president who had tried to outsmart them had himself been outmaneuvered by the parties he had been cursing in the past.

Re: A matter of impeachment

Surely to hell...for whatever he has done...there can not be any other place for him...