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last night while eating out wid some friends n family, i saw this guy.. on his way into the restaurant, he barked at a girl begging him for money, like she was a piece of nothing, until her chin started wobbling. well it jus got me a lil upset.

i sincerely hope Allah (swt) never puts you in a position where you have to rely on the generosity of others and put your hand out. Oh! And I hope whatever you ate…aap ka payt kharaab hoe gaya hoe!! :grumpy:

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that is so mean

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did u see this in pakistan? Cuz i've seen sum rude ppl scolding and insulting poor and needy beggars..its so upsetting..ur rite! PPL just dont realize that whatever they have can b taken away frm them and they can end up being beggars! They dont realize that they have money not just only for themselves but for the poor as well..and they'll b lending money to Allah if they give sadqah

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You are right. Once should not scold others only because they are poor and helpless. However, I would like to add this to this situation: In some case, those faqeers not are not so innocent either. And also, they can try to work (even sell something and make small amount) and earn money, rather than being lazy and begging others. One should only beg Allah, not humans.

I was visiting Pakistan last year and I was in Lahore. A cold night, and I was standing outside of a building waiting for my uncle. A little girl (8-10) came to me and she was very pretty, but messy hair and dirty clothes. She was selling some kind of hair bands and clips. She didn't know how to speak decent Urdu, which made her sound even cuter. SHe insisted that I buy something from her. Since I was visiting Lahore and was staying with my Uncle who was studying there, we had no ladies in the house. I tried to tell her I would buy something but what would I do with it? I have no females in the house, so I can't give it to them. But she would not leave and kept asking me to buy them. I gave in and bought some stuff from her. She was very happy after that and ran off to whoever was supervising her. :) I brought them home and I am not sure what happened to them, either I forgot them at my uncle's house or I lost them somewhere.

Point: She did not beg for money. She made a sale and earned it and that's why I bought it because she was trying and she needed my help to succeed in her try. I respect that.

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Stories like that always bring tears to my eyes.

I learned my lesson the hard way. Couple of years ago, while I was in Pakistan, I went out with friends to eat outside. We were sitting at this table near the chiken Tikka stall and a boy about 10 years old came to us. He was wearing clean clothes and didn't present the picture of a begger. He asked me for some money. All of us started joking with him, asking him what he will do with that money. He said he would eat something. We invited him to eat with us, he refused and insisted that we give him some money so he can buy his own food. So all of us thought that he was just a pest, asking for money, and was not hungry. He started to tell us that he goes to school, his father is out of work because he is sick. They havent eaten for 2 days now thats why he was asking me money so he could buy something and take it home. We were all laughing and joking and 100% convinced that he was a liar, I think someone from us made a stupid remark about him and his family. Then I noticed tears dropping from his eyes. We laughed even louder "Buhat baRa dramay baaz hay yar"

One of my friends said "OKay take us to your home we will see for ourselves" , he wanted to joke around a bit more with that kid.

The kid looked at us straight in the eyes and told my friends "Okay , If you want to see, please come, I will take you to my home, It will at least save my all the walking I have to do to get back, I dont even have money for the bus fare"

We took him in our car, We drove for like 15 minutes and this small kid guided us through narrow kachhii streets and finally asked us to stop in front of a JhoonPree. He went inside, probably to tell the people inside that they had visitors. He came out and asked us to walk in.

My dear guppies, please believe me, There was not even a chair or anything for us to sit down. His father was lying in a corner on a broken charpai AND he was sick. The kid was just standing in a corner tears flowing down his eyes and I could see curious eyes peeking at us from behind a wall.

We could take it no longer. I think we were all fighting hard to hold back our own tears. We went outside, emptied out all of our pockets and gave everything we had to that kid. He would not look at us straight in the eyes. This was because he was not a professional begger which made our own attitude a short while ago look really pathetic and we were cursing ourselves.

We could take it no longer and just got into the car and drove away.

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that is soo sad.....it hurts to see people like that...

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:k: good point..

i remember when i was in pakistan, i would always prefer to buy flowers (those single roses) from the young ones.. - it just made me feel like they were actually working for the money..and not just taking it…

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James bhai you are right, sometimes it's majboori that makes them beg. But then there are stories that just piss you off and wanna slap those beggers.

In 2001 when I was visiting Pakistan, I was standing at a bus stop waiting for the bus to load before it leaves. A begger came to me, probably in his 30's and he was asking for money. I nicely said "Maaf karo baba" but he kept begging. I got irritated after ignoring him for a while. What ticked me off was that he was smoking. It's his personal choice and I am no one to ask him to quit smoking but what do you think he'll do with the money? Chances are he would go buy more cigerettes. I just told him I can't give him anything because if you money to buy cigerettes, I am sure you can spend that money on food instead and afford a meal. Then he just left and moved on to the next person.

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There is a kid who used to beg in lahore right where u turn right towards defence from cavalry ground. He does not have an arm i think . Ive seen that kid there since i dont even know when. Turns out he aint that poor after all , my dad saw him once infront of Masjid Ibraheem near kenchi talking on a cellphone wearing nice clothes n stuff.

yea some of them kids are needy , but most of them are pretty rich or they are part of gangs...

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Shikra, I always thought that you were a female....and I still think that.

Ah, just dropped by.

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Thats soo mean

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How is that mean? That should be a complement....that I would actually think about hitting on Shikra thinking that Shikra is female.
Don't worry Shikra, I am not a flirt. I only flirt when I am drunk...and that doesn't happen very often.

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no whatever mentioned in the articleee

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Dope lagta hai tumhe dope charhi hui hai :smack:

I have to admit that I was very mean to a girl begger (well not a begger but still) once and I feel terrible about it :frowning:

In 2001, we were visiting Lahore and went to Ganj Shakar’s darbaar. They have a few “beggers” there who have gulaab k phoolon k haar and they put one around your neck when you go there. After I got out of the car, one little girl (13-15) came running and put one around my neck and started begging that for Ganj Shakar’s sake, I give her something for that haar. I was nice at first and said I don’t need it. And the reason I said that was because I had a lot of money in my wallet and I didn’t wanna expose it in public. I would take it off and give it back to her but she kept putting it around my neck. I got irritated and yelled don’t you get it? I don’t need it! She then walked away.

I still feel terrible :frowning:

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khullay paisay alag jaib main rakhaa karoo naa :rolleyes:

:chai:

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Iss baar jab gaya tha tou seekh liya tha na :blush: Actually it’s funny because I had to do some serious shopping in lahore, so I asked my mumaani to sew a zip on my boxers and put 20, 000 in there so no one can pick my pocket :halo: about 5000 in my callet for shopping per day, and then about 200 in change for regular stuff :blush:

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:what:

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:(

That's what I wanna do when I grow up. I want to help the poor, kasme. I really do. :(

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:kiss: I know honey - I know :hug:
Pehlay baReee tu ho jao theek say :phati:

:chai:

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I am a big kid and I’m gonna go start a lemonade stand to raise money. :snooty: