A lesson for frightened Pak army on how to fight Taliban fasadis

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If that is the case, why don't the Taliban hide in Afghan cities like the Iraqi Insurgents?

Why is it that they run away like cockroaches into Pakistan?

Could it be that they don't enjoy popular support from the population and the only way these barbarians rule is by the barrel of a gun.

Afghanistan has to be a stable democracy and Taliban has to be utterly annhiliated from the face of the earth.

Taliban and the people who support this kind of ideology is a cancer which will destroy Pakistan and Afghanistan.

They need to wiped from the face of the earth. I hope America sticks around to get this accomplished.

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Well those 8 years was run by Bush so its not surprising that he screwed up.....

And how does Pakistan benefit from Taliban ruling Afghanistan?

Please explain

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:rotfl: :rotfl:

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it is only you and few of your sources who say that Taliban are being supported by Pakistanies and/or they run to Pakistan… try to learn more!!!

Taliban are their , kicking some gora asses…

please read this

In Afghanistan, Taliban Control the Countryside - World news | Newser

and there are many other articles about the situaiton of Afghanistan… so for a change, get a taste of some real news.. something outside from the tubestation

Anyway, Americans have lost half of their economy, i don’t know long they’ll be able to keep up with the war with ongoing economic downturn…

so the situation now is

in 2001, America was a super-power, has strongest Army and solid Economy

in 2009, America is still a super power, have big army and weak economy…

Continue with the trend

in 2013

America was a superpower, had very big army, and have almost no economy…

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So have that changed!!!

No one in the world so far has been able to prove this allegation, yes some dummies believe everything they see on their tele. but nothing is proved. not even y mighty US.

Now Afghanistan has turned into the heaven for all the criminals, as their is almost not law in 90% of Afghanistan, countries and Mafia are growing Opium at their will, which was banned under taliban rule then, ( i guess this is the main reason to start a war, as western mafias was not able to get the raw-material from their business), now Afghanistan, with the blessing of US-Army, is exporting this opium, the income is supporting the terrorist to launch attacks against Pakistan...

Now tell me, why US-Army was not able to control the opium production!!! and cut the supply line of these terrorists!!! oh sorry, these terrorist use CIA to break the deal for them....

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It is not about US/NATO lecturing Pakistan. Fight against Taliban is Pakistan's own fight. These maniacs have killed more Pakistanis then Americans. These fanatics are bigger threat to Pakistan then to America. These anti-Islam fanatics will rupture Pakistan society right from the middle.

If absence of these gadgets is the reason Pakistan is unable to take on the enemy then Pakistan should get them from somewhere.
Remember, Taliban anti-Muslim threat is the biggest threat Pakistan faces today. This threat is bigger than India.
So if Pak can get nuclear weapons and jets worth millions of dollars then getting these gadgets should not be impossible.

There is solution to every problem. What is required is recognition of Taliban threat and willingness of army to fight.

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Pakistan army can at least use tactics used in this single engagement to fight the Evil. Just being sitting ducks while Evil is killing Pakistani Muslims is not the solution.

I have not heard any account of any engagement from Pakistan army where they took Taliban kharijis head on.
All I have heard is how hundreds of Pakistani soldiers gave up their weapons to these kharijis without even TRYING to fight.

Is this the way to win fight against the biggest threat Pakistan and Islam face today?

Wo Sunta To Main Kehta, Mujhe Kuch Aur Kehna Tha...
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Isn't Pakistan Army also losing the fight against Taliban?

Aren't you worried about those enemies of Pakistan and Islam?
Don't you wanna try everything possible to defeat those kharijis?

Or are you ready to surrender as soon as possible?

It is not America's fight, it is Pakistan's own fight.

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What sources do you use to measure the results???

who is telling you that Pakistan is losing the war against taliban kind of thugs???

No matter how u say it… as long as America is in Afghanistan, this is American war, If America leaves Afghanistan, then it’ll be matter of days it not months, to send these thugs to the hell… but as long as these thugs have American Army and other elements supporting them, they’ll still exist..

Mind listening to this, although you will say that this is only propoganda, but you have nothing to back your comments
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/318612-good-news.html

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hannibal:
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who is telling you that Pakistan is losing the war against taliban kind of thugs??
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You think surrender of hundreds of Pakistani soldiers without fighting is winning?
Don't you know Taliban occupying Sawat and threatening Buner and Islamabad?

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as long as America is in Afghanistan, this is American war,
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America entered Afghanistan very late. Taliban have been threatening Afghanistan and Pakistan since day one.

Taliban have killed more Pakistanis then they have killed Americans. For example, Taliban occupying a mosque in Islamabad is not a fight against America but against Pakistan.
Taliban will spare Pakistanis only if they continue agreeing with their anti-Islam activities.

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Surrendering of these soldiers shows that, they are not willing to fight these thugs as they consider them freedom fighter or one who is fighting with American forces... on top of that, they believe that these war against the tribals and talibans might have not started in Pakistan, if Americans haven't invaded Afghanistan...

Before American Invaded Afghanistan

in April 2001, Afghanistan, is a country, minding its own business, not meddling into international affairs, bunch of few people, having AK-47, ruling people and have not Opium.. whats so ever..

in April 2009, Afghanistan is a country, who's president do not control anything out of his palace ( some says things inside the palace are controlled by his wife), country has turned into battle-field, with the help of American Soldiers, the Opium business has resumed.. so Afghanistan is not only producing terrorists but exporting raw-materials for drugs...

Is this is what American entered into Afghanistan.. even today if they leave the country, I am sure, Pakistan will able to control its tribal areas, which is as we speak is full of Indian agents busy supporting Bait ullah Mehsood kind of traitors...

I am still waiting to see that what measures do you take to see if Pakistan is winning the war or not???

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hannibal:

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Surrendering of these soldiers shows that, they are not willing to fight these thugs as they consider them freedom fighter
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What were those soldiers ordered to do by military high command? To fight Taliban or surrender to them?

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n April 2001, Afghanistan, is a country, minding its own business, not meddling into international affairs,
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False. Afghanistan under Taliban was international terrorism training institute, where anti-Islam militants from all over the world had gathered to learn the art of killing, and from where these terrorists go to their own countries and kill Muslims.

At that time Taliban trained terrorists in Pakistan were only targeting minorities. No one else in pakistan bothered because their target was not people of Pakistan in general. They were not targeting Pakistanis in general because Pakistan government itself was supporting them in Afghanistan.

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Wars/Fight are won by Moral and not by Command only...

The Soldiers somehow believe that this is not their war, they can kick some asses if Americans leave the ground....because then they can differentiate between the good and bad guys.. good are those who are fighting against American Invasion of Afghanistan and they want Americans to leave, bad are those, who are fighting with Pakistan forces while getting support from their Indian and American masters.. baitullah Mehsood is one of the example.. Army is after him and his control has been minimized, have you been to the link i posted ....

My partner
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Reminds me of that book by Hussain Haqqani about alliance between mosque and military.

That is the root cause of Pakistan’s problems.

It is Zia’s propaganda in Pakistan army which is now bearing fruit in the form of a big section of Pakistan army’s support of Taliban kharijis.

Taliban support in military and government is the reason Pakistan is losing the fight against these anti-Islam kharijis.
These supporters are enemies of Pakistan, because they don’t fight the killers of Pakistani Muslims. They are enemies of Islam because they don’t fight people who bring bad name to Islam.

My partner
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The Taliban control the country side where they can intimidate people at the barrel of the gun.

Same thing happened in Iraq. The Iraqi Insurgents also roamed the Iraqi countryside but when US Troops came they melted into the population. In Afghanistan, If US forces come they run away into Pakistan. The reason being they don’t enjoy popular support and the only place they feel secure is the Tribal Areas.

In other news, the global economy is beginning to recover. Only Pakis like you think that America’s economy will never recover. Well its not surprising since you have been fed anti-American nonsense growing up. People with our mentality is the end result.

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They have been proven beyond a doubt.

The only way Taliban controlled Afghanistan was to execute anyone growing Opium. If USA started doing that you would be calling them Nazis, etc....

So its damned if they do and damned if they don't.

And besides in Nazi Germany, even Hitler got the crime rate down. I am sure you want that for Afghanistan don't you.

Bait Bazi March 2013
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This thread has no direction and no real impetus of its own except a general comparison of who is better US and Pakistan.

There is little relevance of a US Army's feelgood piece about ambushing some Taleban to Pakistan.