Re: A leaf from history: The prime minister is hanged
Absolutely spot on, he envisioned the monster and did his best to take advantage of it. Created intolerance in society. Zia took advantage of the evil ideas of Bhutto.
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Dawn’s cover for the day 26 yrs back:
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You can’t be that naive, can you? Pakistan started helping anti Dauod forces in Bhutto’s time. Afghans under daoud were anti-pakistan. he was instrumental in invading bajour in early sixties leading to army and PAF getting involved (pics of PAF bombing after Peshawar massacre last year are probably from that time). Pakistan blockaded Afghanistan leading to his dismissal. It was before the transit agreement.
Now, this is the same Bhutto that used the atmosphere against bengalos to his advantage and also banned qadianis. I have no doubt that this so-called progressive wouldn’t be averse to getting american and Saudi help if it meant stabilizing his rule.
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Yeh des hay andhay logon ka
Aay Chand yahan nikla na kar
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I think just like every other pawn in Pakistani politics, he knew too much. Had he not been hanged, he would have been assassinated just like Mujeeb Ur Rehman. Once their job’s over (of taking Pakistan a step or few further towards destruction), they have to go.
As a rule, it has always been a ‘foreign’ rule in the country, whether in the name of civilian government, whether military, combination of the two or several groups. And the ‘foreign rule’ does not want a thing to change in Pakistan… for the worse, yes. But not for the better.
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Pakistani parhay likhay ya jahil aik barabar hain
Fauji hakoomaton aur ghadaron/dictatoron ki ghualmi main reh reh kar in kay damaghon main marnay , qatal karanay , phansi denay , jalany , tabah karnay kay siwa koi khial hi naheen aata
Qabil e rahm balkeh qabil e nafrat bemar zehn
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I truly respect this guy for the words he spoke in this video alone and completely agree with him. So IF he ordered to hang Bhutto, Im sure his decision was just and fair. Rest God knows the best:
Zia ul Haq Addressing Muslim Leaders | Dubai Time
Arafaat was some ‘ayyaash’ stooge whose only job was to MISrepresent the palentinians.
Re: A leaf from history: The prime minister is hanged
Please read the following and try to compare his words and his actions.
Black September in Jordan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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An order is an order. After all you don’t say the same for US soldiers that bombed hospitals in Iraq do you?
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No.
Just saying that he was promoted and installed here in Pakistan for his services to Uncle Sam.
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Look at the faces
One is Bhutto , The face of Pakistan , a brave & committed Pakistani , never claimed to be an angel but struggled for Pakistan
Other is a traitor under clause 6 of constitution of Pakistan
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And how was the services to Uncle Sam conducted in Jordan?
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Off-topic, but you can read about it here: Indiana University Bloomington
…On September 9, 1970, National Security Adviser Henry Kissinger convened a meeting of the Washington
Special Actions Group to discuss the need for a military response to Palestinian radicalism in Jordan. Kissinger
began the meeting by stating, “If we do not get the Fedayeen in Jordan under control, the peace initiative will go by
the board. The President’s instincts are to crush the Fedayeen now.”4 Though President Nixon favored an American
military response to the hostage crisis, logistical restraints in the Middle East and a burdensome financial commitment
to the Vietnam War had severely constrained the United States military’s interventionary capability in the region.
Furthermore, the use of American troops on Jordanian soil threatened to further discredit the authority of the already
embattled Hashemite King. Having ruled out the use of American troops as “militarily impractical,” the Nixon Administration
instead settled on a course that supported Jordanian military action by providing sustained funding and
moral encouragement to the Hashemite king.
Though the United States believed the Jordanian army capable of defeating the Fedayeen militants, the Nixon
Administration was not confident that King Hussein would risk the political repercussions that such a move would
prompt from the Arab community. Richard Helms, the Director of Central Intelligence, expressed his doubt to Kissinger,
saying, “He wants to avoid fighting…He is simply not willing to take on the Palestinians in his Kingdom with
the possible help they would receive from the Iraqis, possibly the Syrians.”6 The determined solution was to use the
visibility of American military power as a means to bolster King Hussein’s confidence and dissuade the prospect of
foreign intervention. This pointed to the Nixon Administration’s developed strategy in Jordan. By maintaining an element
of public and private encouragement for King Hussein’s campaign against the Fedayeen, the United States could
effectively communicate an unyielding commitment to the Middle East and, in effect, influence the outcome of events
in the region…
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I am confused. It was a Civil War. It lasted close to two years. It was when the PLO actually took over Jordanian cities and landed 2 hijacked planes on Jordanian soil. So while the US had interests, didn’t Jordan have the interest of making sure its territory was under its own control.
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I agree with you. Jordan had a right to deal with them as they wanted. My question is why Pakistan was involved? What was Pakistan’s role other than making Nixon happy?
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Just like the Iraqi troops, the Pakistani troops took part in the 1967 war. They had PAF in Syria and Jordan and the contingent was based there before the civil war broke out. We had troops based all of the middle east under Ayub and Bhutto. They weren’t sent into support the uprising they were already there.
Secondly the Pakistani Military command in Pindi gave the instructions to Zia to open fire. That was a direct order sent over the phone to the both the military command in Jordan as well the Embassy and diplomats.
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Who sent command to Pindi?
Look at it from the perspective of what we are going to do now. Getting into another conflict where Muslims would be killing Muslims.
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The way it worked was that Zia and the senior most Pakistani diplomat were asked by the Jordian authorities to take part in military action against the Palestinians. So a follow up was sent to GHQ to ask for what they should do. So GHQ told the embassy and the Pakistan military to do exactly what the Jordanians asked.
GHQ has full knowledge of what was gonna happen and they okayed it.
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Why? $s?
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Because Jordan was a better ally of Pakistan and the PLO had openly sided with India on issues such as Kashmir. From a Foreign policy point of view the military decided that Jordan was a better bet. Also at the height of the cold war, the PLO was pro-russia. Jordan and Pakistan were pro-USA.