A Great Conversation

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http://www.info-islam.org/2006/08/22/a-great-conversation/
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A man came to Iyas Ibn Mu’awiyah, a Muslim judge famous for his wisdom, and the following conversation took place between them:**

Man: What is the Islamic ruling regarding wine?

Judge: It is Haram (Forbidden).

Man: How about water?

Judge: It is Halal (Permissible).

Man: How about dates and grapes?

Judge: They are Halal.

Man: Why is it that all these ingredients are Halal, and yet when you combine them, they become Haram?

The judge looked at the man and said: If I hit you with this handful of dirt, do you think it would hurt you?

Man: It would not.

Judge: How about if I hit you with this handful of straw?

Man: It would not hurt me.

Judge: How about a handful of water?

Man: It surely would not hurt me.

Judge: How about if I mix them, and let them dry to become a brick, and then hit you with it, would it hurt you?

Man: It would hurt me and might even kill me!

**Judge: The same reasoning applies to what you asked me!!

**Just don’t take this too seriously, to some it might be ridiculous logic, to some it might be okay, and to some it’s just subhanAllah!

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Allahhu Akabr, Jazak Allah khair for sharing brother

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subhanallah.. good one..

we need to share the wisdoms of great imams like Imam Abu Hanifa and the rest as well.

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As you said "I am not taking it seriously".

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Three persons argued with a scholar
One of the scholars was in his orchard and did not mix with the people. Three
persons, who used to sneeze at him and at those who behave in such manner,
heard about him.

One of them said, let us go and argue this scholar. The first
advanced towards him and said that, you (the scholars) said Allah is existent and accordingly I want to see Allah.

The Scholar nodded with them in agreement. The second advanced and said, you said, on the Day of Judgment, the chastisement will
be with fire and the Jinn were created from the fire, so how is fire tortured by fire.

The third and this indicates that the man is not responsible for his actions and I seethat man creates his actions. Consequently, the scholar filled his hand with a dust and threw it at their faces and said to them this is my answer to your questions.

Thereupon, they agreed to sue him and they took him to the ruler. The ruler askedhim, ‘Are they truthful in what they said that you threw the dust at their faces?’,
He
replied, ‘yes’. He said to him, ‘Why?’ the scholar said, ‘Because the first asked me tosee his Lord since He is existent, so, say to him to make me see the pain he feltfrom the dust and I will make him see what he wants. ‘The ruler asked thecomplainer, ‘Are you able to make him see the pain?’ He replied, ‘No’ The Scholarsaid, ‘Say to this ignorant person that not all what is existent can be seen.

As for the second, he asked me about the torturing of the Jinn with the fire and thought that is impossible to torture the thing with the substance from which it is made. He said to the ruler why did this man feel pains of this dust since he is created from it.

And the third asked me about the meaning of predestination and said to me you must admit that the man is forced in his actions and forget that man has the choice of gaining (whether good or bad). If I had no choice in throwing the dust at the face of these persons, why did he sue me?’ Here, the ruler said, do not think that you can masterly identify God. He is beyond the creatures’ intuition for He is more Glorious to be known except through His creatures and signs