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Aslamalikum my fellow guppoo’s
I have never come to the religion section but have recently started having great intrest in religion and will inshallah follow my religion to the best i can very soon.

I have a few questions, would be grateful if you could answer them

  1. Is it wrong to kiss the thumbs and place them on your eyes when the name of the holy prophet (p.b.u.h) is mentioned? I kiss my thumbs etc etc at the moment.

  2. Was the Holy Prophet Nurr? (light)
    or was the holy Pophet (pbuh) a normal human being?

Can i have constructive comments as i know these questions are very sensitive in nature.
Can i also have proof please?

To let you all know where i stand at the moment, well i believe that the holy prophet (pbuh) is nurr.

thanks in advance

ALLAHHAFIZ

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1) Some people might differ with me on first question but I used to be confused as well but later on given the logic that you are supposed to say durood (sal-allah-o allahi wasalam) rather than doing something which hasn't been done before I understood and stopped doing it.

2) There is ikhtilaf on certain groups whether prophet (pbuh) was Nuur or human and this is all where Sufism comes into Islam. I personally am convinced that Prophet (pbuh) was a human like us and died.

I don't know if I am making any sense maybe someone else can explain it better.

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u see this is where im confused.
Cant light die ?
or get taken away.
why didnt they have a shadow?
can a human go on mirage shireef?
thanks for the reply khan sahib im grateful.
but still confused

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Salam Riz..
Believing that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is not like the rest of humanity, and that he is light
from the Light of Allaah Himself is not a correct belief, because it contradicts the Qur’aan. Allaah has stated that the Prophet
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is human, and has explained what makes the Prophet (peace and blessings of
laah be upon him).
May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad. And Allaah knows best.

Allaah be upon him) different from the rest of mankind. He said
(interpretation of the meaning):

  “Say (O Muhammad): ‘I am only a man like you. It has been
  inspired to me that your God is One God (Allaah). So whoever
  hopes for the Meeting with his Lord, let him work
  righteousness and associate none as a partner in the worship
  of his Lord.” [al-Kahf 18:110]

  Mankind, human beings, are created, as Allaah says
  (interpretation of the meaning):

  “O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a
  single person (Adam), and from him He created his wife
  (Hawwa/Eve), and from them both He created many men and
  women…” [al-Nisaa’ 4:1]

  “O mankind, if you are in doubt about the Resurrection, then
  verily! We have created you from dust, then from a nutfah
  (mixed drops of male and female sexual discharge)…” [al-Hajj
  22:5]

  “O Prophet! Verily, We have sent you as witness, and a bearer
  of glad tidings, and a warner, - and as one who invites to
  Allaah by His leave, and as a lamp spreading light.”
  [al-Ahzaab 33:45-46]

  In contrast, Allaah is the First, and He has no beginning, as He
  says (interpretation of the meaning):

  “He is the First (nothing is before Him) and the Last (nothing
  is after Him), the Most High (nothing is above Him), and the
  Most Near (nothing is nearer than Him). And He is the
  All-Knower of every thing.” [al-Hadeed 57:3]

  Allaah called His Prophet “light” and a “lamp spreading light”
  because of the guidance and light with which Allaah sent him,
  with which Allaah guides all those who answer his call 
  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), as He says
  (interpretation of the meaning):

  “… Indeed, there has come to you a light (Prophet Muhammad 
      (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)) and a plain
  Book (this Qur’aan).” [al-Maa’idah 5:15]

3.Saying that he is present and watching in every place, that he is
himself present at every gathering to celebrate his birthday, and
that he hears what the people present are saying, is all false.
There is no basis for this in either the Qur’aan or the Sunnah.

4.Calling on him and seeking his help and support is a form of
major shirk which is not permitted, whether one is calling on the
Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or on
any other created being, because Allaah says (interpretation of
the meaning):

       “… so invoke not anyone along with Allaah.”
       [al-Junn 72:18]

       “And whoever invokes (or worships) besides
       Allaah, any other god of whom he has no
       proof, then his reckoning is only with his Lord.
       Surely! Al-kaafiroon (the disbelievers) will not
       be successful.” [al-Mu’minoon 23:117]

       (Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 3/4)

The Muslim should follow, not innovate. He should believe in Allaah
alone, call on Him alone and seek His help alone. He should not call
on or seek the help of anyone else. The consequences of shirk are
devastating, as it will wipe out all a person’s good deeds and lead to
his doom in Hell. Bid’ah is a serious matter, which will cause a
person’s deeds to be thrown back at him, not accepted. The Muslim
should love, respect, honour and obey the Prophet (peace and
blessings of Allaah be upon him), and give his words precedence over
the words of any other human being, but it is not permitted to
exaggerate about him, or to raise his status above that which has been
bestowed upon him by Allaah, or to call on him instead of Allaah,
because this is a violation of the rights of Allaah, and involves
directing acts of worship to someone other than Allaah, when they
should only be directed towards Allaah, may He be glorified and
exalted. We ask Allaah to help us to do that which will please Him and
to avoid that which will earn His wrath, and to help us to love Him
and His Prophet (peace and blessings of Al

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Salam Riz..
Believing that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is not like the rest of humanity, and that he is light
from the Light of Allaah Himself is not a correct belief, because it contradicts the Qur’aan. Allaah has stated that the Prophet
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is human, and has explained what makes the Prophet (peace and blessings of
laah be upon him).
May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad. And Allaah knows best.

Allaah be upon him) different from the rest of mankind. He said
(interpretation of the meaning):

  “Say (O Muhammad): ‘I am only a man like you. It has been inspired to me that your God is One God (Allaah). So whoever

hopes for the Meeting with his Lord, let him work righteousness and associate none as a partner in the worship of his Lord.” [al-Kahf 18:110]

  Mankind, human beings, are created, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

  “O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person (Adam), and from him He created his wife (Hawwa/Eve), and from them both He created many men and
  women…” [al-Nisaa’ 4:1]

  “O mankind, if you are in doubt about the Resurrection, then verily! We have created you from dust, then from a nutfah

(mixed drops of male and female sexual discharge)…” [al-Hajj
22:5]

  “O Prophet! Verily, We have sent you as witness, and a bearer of glad tidings, and a warner, - and as one who invites to

Allaah by His leave, and as a lamp spreading light.”
[al-Ahzaab 33:45-46]

In contrast, Allaah is the First, and He has no beginning, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“He is the First (nothing is before Him) and the Last (nothing is after Him), the Most High (nothing is above Him), and the
Most Near (nothing is nearer than Him). And He is the All-Knower of every thing.” [al-Hadeed 57:3]

Allaah called His Prophet “light” and a “lamp spreading light” because of the guidance and light with which Allaah sent him, with which Allaah guides all those who answer his call (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), as He says
(interpretation of the meaning):

  “… Indeed, there has come to you a light (Prophet Muhammad 
      (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)) and a plain
  Book (this Qur’aan).” [al-Maa’idah 5:15]

3.Saying that he is present and watching in every place, that he is
himself present at every gathering to celebrate his birthday, and
that he hears what the people present are saying, is all false.
There is no basis for this in either the Qur’aan or the Sunnah.

4.Calling on him and seeking his help and support is a form of
major shirk which is not permitted, whether one is calling on the
Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or on
any other created being, because Allaah says (interpretation of
the meaning):

“… so invoke not anyone along with Allaah.”
[al-Junn 72:18]

“And whoever invokes (or worships) besides
Allaah, any other god of whom he has no
proof, then his reckoning is only with his Lord.
Surely! Al-kaafiroon (the disbelievers) will not be successful.” [al-Mu’minoon 23:117]

       (Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 3/4)The Muslim should follow, not innovate. He should believe in Allaah alone, call on Him alone and seek His help alone. He should not call on or seek the help of anyone else. The consequences of shirk are devastating, as it will wipe out all a person’s good deeds and lead to his doom in Hell. Bid’ah is a serious matter, which will cause a

person’s deeds to be thrown back at him, not accepted. The Muslim should love, respect, honour and obey the Prophet (peace and
blessings of Allaah be upon him), and give his words precedence over
the words of any other human being, but it is not permitted to exaggerate about him, or to raise his status above that which has been
bestowed upon him by Allaah, or to call on him instead of Allaah,
because this is a violation of the rights of Allaah, and involves directing acts of worship to someone other than Allaah, when they should only be directed towards Allaah, may He be glorified and
exalted. We ask Allaah to help us to do that which will please Him and to avoid that which will earn His wrath, and to help us to love Him and His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah)

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salaam...Here is some more info..I hope that u won't deviate from the sunnah..inshallah..may Allah guide you..
Praise be to Allaah.

The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon
him) has been described as being light from the light of Allaah. If what
is meant by this is that he himself is from the light of Allaah, then this
goes against the Qur’aan, which refers to his being human. If what is
meant is that he is light in the sense that he brought the Revelation by
which whoever Allah wills of His creation is guided, then this is
correct. The committee has issued a fatwa concerning this matter, as
follows:

“The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has
light which is the light of the message and guidance from Allaah,
through which Allaah guides whomsoever He will of His slaves. No
doubt the light of the message and of guidance comes from Allaah.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

‘It is not given to any human being that Allaah should speak to him
unless (it be)by inspiration, or from behind a veil, or (that) He sends
a Messenger to reveal what He wills by His Leave. Verily, He is
Most High, Most Wise.

And thus We have sent to you (O Muhammad) Roohan (an
Inspiration, and a Mercy) of Our Command. You knew not what is
the Book, nor what is Faith? But We have made it (this Qur’aan) a
light wherewith We guide whosoever of Our slaves We will. And
verily, you (O Muhammad) are indeed guiding (mankind) to the
Straight Path (i.e., Allaah’s religion of Islamic monotheism), --

The path of Allaah, to Whom belongs all that is in the heavens and
all that is in the earth. Verily, all the matters at the end go to Allaah
(for decision).”[al-Shura 42:51-53]

This light is not derived from the Seal of the Awliya’ as some heretics
claim. The body of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be
upon him) was blood and flesh and bone, and so on. He was created
from a father and a mother, and had no existence before he was born.
The reports which say that the first thing created by Allaah was the
light of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him),
or that Allaah grasped a handful of the light from His Face and that
this handful was Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be
upon him), then He looked at it and it formed drops, and from each of
these drops He created a Prophet, or He created all of creation from
the light of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon
him) – all of these reports and the like are not saheeh, and nothing like
this has been narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of
Allaah be upon him).”

From the fatwa quoted above, it is clear that this is a false belief.

As for the report which says “I am ‘Arab without (the letter) ‘ayn,
i.e., Rabb, and I am Ahmad without (the letter) meem, i.e., Ahad” –
the attributes of Lordship (ruboobiyah, from Rabb meaning Lord) and
Absolute Unity (Ahad meaning One) are attributes that belong
uniquely to Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted. It is not
permissible for any one of His creation to be described as “the Lord
(Rabb)” or as being One (Ahad) in absolute terms. These are
attributes that belong exclusively to Allaah, and are not used to
describe the Messengers or any other human beings. May Allaah bless
our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions.

Al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah li’l-Buhooth al-‘Ilmiyyah wa’l-Ifta’ (Standing
Committee for Academic Research and the Issuing of Fatwas).

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 1/310.

Question:

Is it said that Allaah created the heavens and earth for the purpose of
creating the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)?
What is the meaning of the words, “Were it not for you, the universe
[lit. heavenly bodies] would not have been created”? Is there any basis
for this hadeeth? Is it saheeh or not? Please give us the facts.

Answer:

The heavens and earth were not created for the sake of the Prophet
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). They were created
for the reason mentioned by Allaah in the aayah (interpretation of the
meaning):

“It is Allaah Who has created seven heavens and of the earth the like
thereof (i.e., seven). His Command descends between them (heavens
and earth), that you may know that Allaah has power over all things,
and that Allaah surrounds (comprehends) all things in (His)
Knowledge.”[al-Talaaq 65:12]

As for the hadeeth mentioned, it is falsely attributed to the Prophet
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and has no grounds
for authenticity. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad and his
family and companions.

Al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah li’l-Buhooth al-‘Ilmiyyah wa’l-Ifta’ (Standing
Committee for Academic Research and the Issuing of Fatwas).

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thanks very much.
I will now wait for some more views but i def am a bit more clearer as to where i stand on this issue.

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I agree with Khan_sahib on kissing the tumb issue, you should say darood. Mohammed PBUH is not noor but a human. It is very clear in Quran that Mohammed PBUH is one of us Human who brought us the teaching of Allah. He is like the light on the lighthouse, which shows the right path.

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There is an ayat as shown by FunnyGirl.UK which tells that Prophet PBUH was a human being, and there is another ayat which tells that all creatures have to face death. And there is an ayat which Hadrat Abu Bakr (RA) recited to people after death of Prophet PBUH which tells us that Prophet PBUH was supposed to die........ all leading us to support the idea that he was HUMAN BEING as we are.

My suggestion is that don't look into these details, it is not in "fundamental" beleifs to consider Prophet PBUH as "light/noor" or "human being". Allah will not ask you whether Prophet PBUH was a human being or noor, HE'll ask you whether you followed him or not, and if followed then your sincerity will be checked.

The very first thing that will be measured on Judgement Day is your "Prayers"-the 5 times a day- prayers. You'll be asked about your promises, you'll be asked for "haqooq-ul-Allah", for "haqooq-ul-Ibaad". Allah will not ask you who should've been khalifa after Prophet PBUH etc.

We should be focusing on "bigger picture".... the teachings of Islam. Lets get our major "faraaiz" done with sincerity first.

Conclusion:
Answers
1. If you kiss thumbs and place them on eyes and think about this act as "religious" and consider yourself to be rewarded... then its not right to do it, but saying the "darood-e-Ibrahimi" or "sallal-Allahu-alaihi wa-aalihi wassalam" is a rewarding act. This act of kissing thumbs is not from Sunnah.

  1. Consideration of Holy Prophet PBUH as Noor is considered as "shirk", because ppl who beleive Holy Prophet PBUH as noor also think that his noor is present "everywhere", which is Allah-only characteristic (to be present everywhere). These ppl (beleiving in Prophet PBUH as noor) try to prove their notion from ahadith, while we know that if some hadith goes against the teachings of Quran we have to ignore such hadith. So in order to be in a safer place, consider him as Human being which is proved by Quran.

We oughta be Changez like, don't we?