Now which anti islamic site did you get this from?
Yes, differences are found in the existing copies of the quranic text when we compare them carefully.
to see please click here for a muslim explanation
here for a christian explanation
muslim library with information about quranic collection and textual variations
the guardian article about the quranic finds
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*Originally posted by Stupid Idiot: * It was your mistake that you didnt read the whole post before posting your comments. Please be brave enough admit mistakes rather then blamin it on others all the time.
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He made the first mistake of 'deception' by using a corrupt title and my response was natural. Then I did read as he said so and that's why I asked him not to use misleading titles.
wHY WOULD I WANT TO DECIEVE ANYONE????????? PD...
interesting topic : )
the sites listed here (al-islam.org and submission.org) r both not Islamic sites…
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*Originally posted by armughal: *
the sites listed here (al-islam.org and submission.org) r both not Islamic sites....
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Thankyou for sharing that with us.
aslamu alikum brothers and sisters the ppl known as "SUBMITTERS" are MUNKAREEN HADITH.........
MORE TO COME ON SCINECE AND QURAAN and MUNKAREEN HADITH SOON....INSHA ALLAH SO KEEP TUNED (lol)
ma'asalamah
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suddenly you are arguing using Muslim traditions? You're better off doing it with science, archaeology, even logic or philosophy, than use a strawman like Muslim traditions for your argument.
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Well,,let's use reason then, It is not by prayer and humility that you cause things to go as you wish, but by acquiring a knowledge of natural laws. The power you acquire in this way is much greater and more reliable than that formerly supposed to be acquired by prayer, because you never could tell whether your prayer would be favorably heard in Heaven. The power of prayer, moreover, had recognized limits; it would have been impious to ask too much. But the power of science has no known limits. We were told that faith could remove mountains, but no one believed it; we are now told that the atomic bomb can remove mountains, and everyone believes it.
Aslam u alikum.....ok FOLKS iam BACK with SOME MORE BOMBSHELL STUFF......
** Some Qur'aanic Verses & Astronomical discoveries**
Professor Yoshihide Kozai: I say, I am very much impressed by finding true astronomical facts in the Qur'aan.
Dr. Kozai is Professor Emeritus at Tokyo University, Hongo, Tokyo, Japan, and was the Director of the National Astronomical Observatory, Mikata, Tokyo Japan. We presented to him a number of Qur'aanic verses describing the beginning of creation and the heavens, and which deal with the relationship of the earth to the heavens. After studying these verses, Professor Kozai asked us about the Qur'aan and about the time when the Qur'aan was revealed. We informed him that it was revealed 1400 years ago, and then we asked him about the facts which these verses contained. After each answer we would show him the Qur'aanic text. He expressed his astonishment, saying that this Qur'aan describes the universe as seen from the highest point, everything seen is distinct and clear. He who said this sees everything in existence. Seen from such a point, there is nothing which can be unseen.
We asked him whether at some point in time the firmament was in a form of smoke. He stated that all signs and indications are converging to prove that at one point in time the whole firmament was nothing but a cloud of smoke. This has come to be established as a proven visible fact. Scientists now can observe new stars forming up out of that smoke, which is the origin of our universe, as we see in this picture (Figure 17.1).
Fig. 17.1
This picture was obtained only recently with the help of the spaceship. It shows one of the stars as it forms up out of the smoke. Look at the outer reddish parts of the smoke as it begins to heat and cluster. And look at the center of the cloud and how the smoky matter is of such high density that it becomes irradiant. The illuminating stars we see today were, just as was the whole universe, in that smoke form. We presented to him the Qur'aanic verse saying:
Then he turned to the sky, and it had been (as) smoke (dukhaan): He said to it and to the earth: come you together, willingly or unwillingly. They said: we do come (together) in willing obedience. (Qur'aan 41:11).
Some scientists describe this dukhaan or smoke “mist”. But Professor Kozai pointed out that the term “mist” does not correspond to the description of this smoke, because mist is characteristically cold, whereas this cosmic smoke is somewhat hot. Dukhaan indeed is made up of diffused gases to which solid substances are attached, and this is the exact description of the smoke from which the universe emerged even before the stars were formed. Professor Kozai said that because that smoke was hot, we cannot describe it as “mist”. Dukhaan is the best descriptive word that can ever be. In this way Professor Kozai continued to scrutinize each Qur'aanic verse we presented to him.
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Finally we asked him: ‘What do you think of this phenomenon which you have seen for yourself, namely, that science is beginning to discover the secrets of the universe, whereas many of these secrets have already been revealed in the Qur'aan or in the Sunnah? Do you think that the Qur'aan was given to the Prophet Muhammad (sallAllahu ‘alaihi wa sallam) from a human source?’
Professor Kozai replied: "I say, I am very much impressed by finding true astronomical facts in Qur'aan, and for us modern astronomers have been studying a very small piece of the universe. We have concentrated our efforts for understanding of a very small part. Because by using telescopes, we can see only very few parts of the sky without thinking about the whole universe. So, by reading Qur'aan and by answering to the questions, I think I can find my future way for investigation of the universe."
Fig. 17.3
Professor Kozai believes it is impossible that the Qur'aan was from a human source. He further stated that we scientists in our studies concentrated only on a small area, but if we read the Qur'aan, then we will see a much larger picture of this universe. Scientists have to look at it in a panorama, not within limited and narrow perspectives. Professor Kozai acknowledges relating to the Cosmos, he is now able to define his way in the future. He states that, from now on, he will plan his research guided by the comprehensive Qur'aanic view of the universe.
Glory to You O Lord, may You be exalted! This is the ever-lasting miracle which renews itself. This is a miracle which gives life and which convinces Muslims and Non-Muslims, and which will convince all generations until the Day of Judgment. Allah said in the Qur'aan:
But Allah bears witness that what He has sent unto thee He has sent with His (own) knowledge. (Qur'aan 4:166).
And say: Praise be to Allah, Who will soon show you His signs, so that you shall know them. (Qur'aan 27:93).
ALLAH u AKBAR
MORE to COME INSHA ALLAH