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Why do shias use a stone while praying… I have a couple of friends in Uni who do that..and they always have it with them…I never asked them cuz It could cause friction…and we had to fight the management for a mosque…so we cant have anything to do with Shia/sunni debate there at the moment…
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brother who me,
the whole concept of doing sajda is to do it with full khuloos (devotion) and feel it with a clear focus of zaateilahee (Allah) in mind. Regarding doing sajda physically, one can do sajda on anything that is pak (clean, pure) and is not used to eat or dress.
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Shair.
i am not an alim though brother who me. i only try my nest to answer your question.
shair.
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thanks for the info. I apologise for using the term shia masjid..but you knew the intent.
Is there any source where we can email for such questions? for various schools of thoughts or about religion and faith in general.
I often find that I have many questions and people either get upset thinking I am mocking them, or expect me to take some immediate action based on the answer, both of which kinda aggravate me.
As far as what we have been talking about, the matam and the grave thing are among the few things that I dont have a comfort level with. I understand that they are devotional and they represent something. To outsiders though it seems as if it is an integral part of the faith, which it is not.
I have some personal feelings for it because when I was learning a few years back, the fact that I did not do matam or pay respects at the roza/grave was considered rude by people whereas I was saying that listen I understand your message, I agree with most of it but these things I am not comfortable with. anyways thats a diff story.
So if anyone knows sources where we can send religion related questions via email and get responses etc, it would be very helpful.
sure brother kami,
as long as you understand the message of karbala and feel the pain that imam hussein went through, its all that you need. there are different ways people remeber him and tradegy of karbala.
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Wassalam,
Shair.
Hi ppl,
I don't have much to say but I'll just say a few words.
When i'm asked about my religion, I tell them that I'm a muslim and not suni or shia. but i do have questions from our shia community. as far as i know abt shiaism is that they have such a belief that Hazrat Ali raziallah-o-anho should be the 1st khalifah and their belief is so strong that they use bad language for all the other Khalifas(naoozubillah). and now don't tell me that its not true. I've been to Iran for three years and i know it more better than anyone. there the attitude for our three Khalifas is very bad.
and the most serious belief of shias when they say "ya Ali", i think its some sort of shirk. coz one should just call for Allah the almighty and no one else in bad or good time.
and and and that's it.
talk to ya later.
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Salam brother ahmed,
Just to ckarify one thing here that when we say ya ali madad we just use Imam Ali (a.s) as waseela and ask for help from Allah and ** Allah only **.
One thing is quite clear that "your tone must not be abusive or assertive while giving your viewpoint". One can clearly see the extremist wahabi tone in your post when you start giving fatwas like its shirk and its this and its that. You need to control your temper and use an educated tone if you wanna discuss issues, just like pristine, degas, mariah, malik, and fraudia had been using. No need to enforce or impose your ideas on others.
Shair.
But shair bhai…
Wouldn’t it be better to say “Ya Allah madad” …why should you need a waseela…I mean when they say “Live like Ali die like Hussain”…I say fair enough (though i am NOT totally for it)… one should learn from Good peoples lives… BUt when it comes to calling Ali (AS) for madad… Its a bit complicated I guess..
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shair since u have much more knowledge then me then why dont u answer these peoples question? why dont u tell ahmed why shia use abusive language for first three khalifa...i could say a few things but i dont want to sound rude...since i like the way u responce to people i would like u to tell ahmed why shias have these feelings for first three khalifa, i m gonna wait for ur reply
brother who me,
Good question.
to begin with it looks a little bit complicated but when you do a little bit of research, its crystal clear why to say ya alimadad. Let me ask you this, and I am not trying to argue here, just clarifying things, When Iraq attacked kuwait and saudia got scared, they asked for help from america. did they or not? they said Ya America madad or Ya Allah madad? these are the same saudis who have double standards. it hurts them alot when we ask for help from Allah ** and only Allah** by using Ali as waseela, and they claim to only say ya allah madad but in actuallity these saudi (wahabi) hypocrats asked for america's madad to use against their own brotheren.
As I mentioned before brother, there is one and only one ** supreme power, i.e. Allah*. When one say Allah akbar, one denies the supremacy of anybody except Allah (la ilaha Illallah). As brother pristine said, there were some people (aulia) that were more pious and closer to Allah (though they were always kind and humble themselves). Imam Ali was wali Allah (friend and lover of Allah). Thats it. But because of Allah's love towards Prophet Mohammed (s.a.w.w) and Imam Ali (a.s), it makes alot of sense to Ask for help from **Allah * using Prophet's and Imam Ali's link. It is the same concept as that of shifaat on the day of judgement. Shifaat does not mean that Prophet (s.a.w.w) will grant us all heaven, no. Its not true. He can only "request" Allah for forgiveness towards us.
Imagine two people trying to climb a mountain. Person A has a rope (waseela, Allah kee rassee)and that rope is attached at different places with nails (maybe ** 14** places, who knows). The other person , person B tries to climb the mountain without a rope. They both may reach mountain top, but who will reach first? Whose journey is safer brother? Obviously, the guy with rope will reach earlier and safer. Same is the case with our lives. Our life is a continuous struggle and when we get depressed and lose hope, we get help from ** Allah and only Allah** using the link, the rope, the connection, the waseela of his pious and dear ones. There is nothing wrong in it.
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shair.
brother sheeraz,
our way of discussing should be constructive and convincing. always try to talk to people in a cool way like our learned alims do, then people will listen to it. Good luck.
shair.
That didnt help…Brother you cant connect these worldly mountain climbing examples to the religion…
Lets say there is a race…in olympics…its 100 meters… one runner runs 100 meter Dash and other runs 100 meters hurdles (with 14 hurdles!!!)…Who wins??..The one with the most direct route…See…as I said…these worldly examples dont help…they go both ways…
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well, these aulia Allahs are helping hands NOT hurdles brother. How can someone be a hurdle when that person tells you to do good deeds. Our Prophet (s.a.w.w) and Imams always told us to perform good deeds and even sacrifice our lives for Allah (as the lesson of Karbala), Are they hurdles? No, not at all. They taught us the great duas (prays) that takes us close to Allah, e.g: Dua-e-kumail by Imam Ali (a.s). Just read the sentences of that dua and you will feel the depth and closeness towards Alllah that dua gives one. Are these hurdles? I dont think so brother.
shair.
Sherazz,
I am asking u again I wrote a post about children of Hazrat Ali(R.A). I want to ask my shia friends that Hazrat Ali(R.A)'s 6th child name was Umar and tenth Uthman.
If he was hating those Sahabas as I perceive from some of the posts here or in majlisis I have attended why did he named his childrens name after them. And if did that why are shias not doing that. Who told them not to name children after these Sahabas. Who are you people following?
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degas bhai,
if your question is relevant to the topic then you are most welcome. If somebody consider your other post important, they will respond to that over there, well I guess though names dont matter that much, we can name kids anything. Its not necessary that a kid with a good name (e.g: Mohammed , Ali, Hasan) turns out to be good always and vice versa.
shair
shair30,
It is relevant to the fact that no one name his children after persons whonm he doesnt like. And it may be a good proof that differences between Sahabas were merely wordly and not related ti Islam and were balooned afterwards. Why dont shias follow Hazrat Ali(R.A) in this regard? I was referring to Shiraaz's question why shias abuse Sahabas.
Well brother…then by your analogy (is that the correct word)…a person saying “ya Ali” is better than a person saying “ya Allah”… isnt it?..
Thats why I said…these worldly examples which depend on physics dont help
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Brother who me,
Not trying to argue with you here but I never compared people saying ya ali or ya allah madad. Basically when a person says Ya Ali Madad, the person should only focus on {b] Allah and use Imam Ali as a link and nothing else**.
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There are people in world who consider Hazrat Ali as God and they are considered Kafirs by shia faith in Islam. These people are called nusairees or alawis or druze (present in syria).
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When one say Ya Ali Madad, he/she only uses Imam Ali (a.s) as a link and nothing else. Our focus is Allah and Allah only. Imam Ali himself once said:
"Meney apney rab ko apney iradon key fisq honey sey pehchana".
Wassalam,
Shair.
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shair.
i will come up with more link on this topic soon.
mein shair to naheen.