Some of these are facts that cant be denied but you cannot expect USA to accept any of these facts. They just simply ignore them because if they have to they would have very hard time proving much of what they claim to have happened on 9/11. Truth is they just get away with any thing. No other country has the might to challenge them. India has tried to pull some stunts in the recent past but no one really takes them seriously. India is yet in no position to force other countries to believe what they want them to believe.
Passengers and crew began making phone calls to officials and family members starting at 09:30 using GTEairphones and mobile phones. Altogether, the passengers and crew made 35 airphone calls and two cell phone calls from the flight.[39]](United Airlines Flight 93 - Wikipedia)
I will have thousands of things to back up my side aaho.I stand by the popular version that terrorists hijacked the planes and rammed them on to the WTC. Simple!!!
oh so u mean CNN is a kind if religion to u?
I remember one Discovery Channel Or N.G episode in which it enacted a part aboard one of the planes, one airshostess requested a pasenger for his credit card and used the Satellite Phone system to inform the authorities whats going on in the plane.
I do not know if anybody had called up anybody straight from the plane,from their cell phones but I remember a news clip mentioning people had actually sent the Text Messages and Voice Messages about whats was going on in the flights.Thats very simple. You can send(SMS) it or activate(V.M) it even if you are outside the coverage area and the messages will get delivered when you re-enter the coverage area. Thats like,when the planes descended to it the towers ,obviously their cell phones would have came back to the coverage area.
A height of ignorance I would say.Have you ever traveled in a train moving faster than 180 KM constantly? Even if that train pass by a radar it never catches the signals. Further more for your explanation a mobile NEVER send an sms to the outbox in retry situation if it see no signal appearing. If some do then they retry after an interval set in the mobile and not when the mobile get the signal.
Keep the fact that I am a civil engineer by education (and few years experience) and now work for Commercial jet manufacturer, here is my list of things that I find amazing
The last minute flight maneuver that UA 175 took to make sure that it hit the second tower. It was amazing that a person who had training only on flight simulator can take that sharp turn and hit the target.
Although both planes hit both towers at different angles, different speed and different floor levels, both towers collapsed with amazing amount of similarity, not to mention that collapse was almost like implosion, for many reasons a) Both towers fell straight down b) both towers almost collapsed till last floor c)both towers completely collapsed within seconds.
Tower 7. Nuff said.
Remember TWA 800 that shattered in mid air (16000 Feet) and over 95% of the airplane wreckage was eventually recovered. Please someone tell me how much wreckage was recovered of the plane that crashed into pentagon. I just could not find that data but certain that almost no wreckage was found.
UA 93 cell phone calls! Makes no sense whatsoever.
^ the hole shown in pentagon attack didn’t look like a ‘jet-airliner’, from what I learnt immediately after the attack video(s) from nearby gas station was removed. I don’t know how far that gas station/convenience store is from pentagon though :hmmm:
**if you have seen these engines, you will realize that they are bigger than a tractor and extremely solid an can withstand an amazing amount of heat- TLK
Tell me please if this looks like something that happens after a plane crashes.
That is what I want to know. BTW, it was a 757 that is a much longer plane so its hard to believe that you cant even find a tail section considering that plane made a head entry into the building.
a Navy photographer surveying the Navy Command Center after the attacks, remarked that "there were so many bodies, I’d almost step on them. So I’d have to really take care to look backwards as I’m backing up in the dark, looking with a flashlight, making sure I’m not stepping on somebody (wiki).
TLK as a civil engineer can you comment on the scientific accuracy of this NIST paper on the collapse of WTC 7? Its pretty much unintelligible to anyone without a structural/civil engineering background, but the researchers involved look pretty good.
but I wanted to add this video about pentagon crash. CNN says that the structure collapsed after 45 minutes. So think about it, a 757 crashed, no pieces were found of the plane and structure actually collapsed after 45 minutes unlike any other structure that should’ve collapsed right after an impact from 757 (like the floors of the tower directly hit by planes)..
dunno about the pentagon bit although the popular mechanics article does go into it as does this one.
theres also this paper titled 'What Did and Did Not Cause Collapse of World Trade Center Twin Towers in New York?" published in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics.
The first report has lots of info but what they essentially did that used two Finite Element computer aided engineering (CAE) software to try to recreate the collapse of WTC 7. Here are couple of things that I noted at a glance.
They used user-defined elements to build the computer model instead of using LS-Dyna or Ansys Standard Library. Its ok to do that but unfortunately when you do that, you can tweak the element properties to make a house fly in the simulation or a pillow to behave like a bomb shelter. I am not saying that they did that, I am just saying that it could be done.
They also said "The collapse of WTC 7 represents the first known case of the total collapse of a tall building primarily due to fire".
They also mentioned "This is the first known instance where fire-induced local damage (that is buckling failure of column 79; one of 82 columns in WTC 7) led to the collapse of an entire tall building.
Honestly, one does not need to be a rocket scientist to see that #2 and #3 are nothing more than a surprising remarks, that also by the official, govt funded civil engineers. Even they seem surprised by such happening.
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