Assalam alaikum
normally i use to write 786 above everythin is I write..no matter if emails.. exams,letter or wutever, but now as i went to pakistan my cousin told me that it is not good to use it because u shuld not aabreviate anythin from Koran Masjid ..
do u anyone know abt that??
no, its not right to do so....
786 is a meaningless number and can by no means be used to abbreviate the bismillah....
u shud instead make a habit of reciting bismillah before doing anything....
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thanks armughal ... of coz i use Bismallah before I start anythin
one more thing to add to armughal.....
ppl use 786 istead of Bismillah, coz they think that even if that paper (on which 786 is written) falls on earth or is thrown in garbage or whatever, it wont be same as throwing Bismillah (coz any quranic verse is very sacred and shud be protected).....but they do forget that its the meaning that counts....if they replace Bismillah with 786, then 786 is as sacred as Bismillah....so use of 786 is senseless, and we shud stick to the original format given to us by Allah....
i have the same habbit!!
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one more thing to add to armughal.....
ppl use 786 istead of Bismillah, coz they think that even if that paper (on which 786 is written) falls on earth or is thrown in garbage or whatever, it wont be same as throwing Bismillah (coz any quranic verse is very sacred and shud be protected).....but they do forget that its the meaning that counts....if they replace Bismillah with 786, then 786 is as sacred as Bismillah....so use of 786 is senseless, and we shud stick to the original format given to us by Allah....
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Bhai, stick to one thing. Either 786 is a replacement for Bismillah, or it isn't. How can it be both. If we take your argument, that it is the niyyat (intention) that counts, then it nullifies armughal's point. If we take armughal's point, then niyyat or not, 786 is not equal to Bismillah. Baat khatam.
Kher anyway... just say Bismillah before starting anything, instead of writing it. I know a few people who do, and they always have a tough time disposing off their stuff.
W'allah o Aalim
The number 786 has nothing to do with Islam. It is actually the numerical calculation of the verse “Bismillahirrahamaanirraheem”.
The calculation of the numeral values of words and phrases does not have any religious significance. It is only an application of the principles of numerology.
The calculation of the numeral value of words and phrases entails adding up the number of each alphabet in the word. For instance, in the verse “Bismillahirrahamaanirraheem” the value assigned to each of the Arabic alphabet is added together. There is a specific numeral value for each Arabic alphabet. For example, the letter “Bay” has a value equal to 2, the letter “Seen” is assigned a value of 60, the letter “Ray” has the number 200 and so on. When all the values of the alphabets in “Bismillahirrahamaanirraheem” are added, the total value of the combination of these alphabets comes to 786.
Thus, 786 is the numerical representation and it can also be the numerical representation of any other phrase not just 'Bismillah..', hence it should not be used.
Saying Bismillah before starting anything serves the purpose, its not necessary to be written on papers especially as papers are thrown in the bin or on the floor and people step on them without noticing.
i never said that 786 is replacement for Bismillah...all i said was that some ppl think the other way which is also wrong.......
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Bhai, stick to one thing. Either 786 is a replacement for Bismillah, or it isn't. How can it be both. If we take your argument, that it is the niyyat (intention) that counts, then it nullifies armughal's point. If we take armughal's point, then niyyat or not, 786 is not equal to Bismillah. Baat khatam.
Kher anyway... just say Bismillah before starting anything, instead of writing it. I know a few people who do, and they always have a tough time disposing off their stuff.
W'allah o Aalim
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*Originally posted by armughal: *
no, its not right to do so....
786 is a meaningless number and can by no means be used to abbreviate the bismillah....
u shud instead make a habit of reciting bismillah before doing anything....
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this really make sence and thanx for sharing
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an interesting article on this issue................
The numerals 786 or any other numerals in no way represent 'Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem' or other Surahs of the noble Qur'aan and is not the Sunnat way.
If one fears abuse of the letter, etc. 'Bismillaah al-Rahmaan
al-Raheem' should be recited verbally at the beginning of the letter which will suffice for the written script. Refer attached
*CAN NUMBER 786 REPLACE THE HOLY NAME OF GOD? *
The innovation of writing '786' replacing 'Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem' has been adopted for a long time and the majority of the Ummah is still indulged in it inadvertently.
Apart from the common folk, the scholars also heed no attention towards it and to avoid disrespect to the Holy Words they use it in their letters and documents.
They adopt it as 'correct' and 'better' way to invite Allah's blessings and have also started replacing the Holy Words by this number on their houses, offices, buildings, etc. Unfortunately, this tendency is gradually gaining momentum.
But, do we see this number instead of the Holy Words in the Holy Qur'aan? Or, can we write it there as well? can we remove 'Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem' from the top of Surah al-Faatiha and replace it with the number 786? Obviously not.
If we study the Qur'aan, we see it carries the holy words in a letter from Prophet Solomon (pbuh) to the Queen of Sheeba - Bilqis - who was an infidel at that time. Even Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in his letters to different heads of states and governments, used the holy words at the top.
Therefore, whosoever uses 786 with the intention to obtain Allah's blessings, is a misguided person and any attempt to justify it, is ignorance.
More astonishing is that fact that '786' is an aggregation of the numbers of Hindu 'Lord Hari Krishna'.
H(a)iri Kr(i)shna
h-5, r-200, r-10, k-20, r-200, sh-300, n-50, a-1 = Aggregate of 786
Thus, the aggregate number of these letters (Hari Krishna) equals 786. This is also the case of 'Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem'. Therefore, it is necessary to avoid using this number to avoid the danger of being indulging in infidelity.
Islam's foundation is laid on the belief in Tawheed (oneness of God). If we associate anyone with Allah's exalted names orally or practically, we would be committing infidelity which is an unpardonable sin.
The Qur'aan warns us, one who finds a rival against Allah, Allah will never allow him to enter paradise, and his abode is the hell.
The letters by the Prophet (pbuh) to non-Muslim Kings and chiefs bear the holy words 'Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem'. This was also the case of his noble companions.
Did the Prophet (pbuh) and his companions respect the Holy Words less than we do? Was the verse, 'Today I completed your religion for you', revealed to the Prophet (pbuh) or to the socalled scholars of our age who are all bent to amend the Divine principles.
Now, when it became known that '786' is written in place of Hindu, 'Lord Krishna', and has no significance in the Holy Qur'aan and Sunnah, it is obviously an innovation and goes against the Divine doctrine of 'Obey Allah and His Prophet'.
Similarly, some Muslims replace Allah's name by the number '66' and the Prophet's name by '92'. But if one ask, the number '420' is used against somebody's name and he is called '420'. Can he bear such an insult?
Calling someone by a nick name is a sin. Allah Ta'ala says, 'Don't call one another by nick names'. If Allah prohibits the use of nicknames for fellow human beings, how can He allow the use of such insulting replacement number for Himself and His Prophet (pbuh).
'Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem' great significance in the Qur'aan and Muslims are ordered to begin any work but in the names Allah, not in the number of '786' or any other substitution.
Fozail Aqdas Ghazali, The Message
Saudi Gazette, Friday - September 29 1995
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let uz chat... no offence, sir, but do you have to choose such an awful font color? Sheesh... now my eyes are hurting.